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Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S?
      04/11/18 12:56 AM

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Hi Rothhammer,

You mentioned Kuduae had written in a thread about loading the M-S for spitzer bullets. Have had a good look for it, thought I had found it a couple of times but don't think so??? Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks.





It's in there, somewhere. As I recall it was very specific regarding the proper seating depth to make Barnes 30486 'lead free' and another spitzer work in the M1910.

Come to think of it, I believe it was in a reply from Kuduae to a post of mine (possibly about seeking lead free MS food).



Found it. Short, direct, and to the point:

Re: Aussie Copper for M1910 [Re: Rothhammer1]
#309336 - 12/23/17 06:08 AM

Kuduae:
I simply use Barnes .375", 235gr TSX FB bullets, #30486 or 37662, seated out to an oal of 77.5 mm = 3.05", in front of 55 gr VV N140. They function quite wellin my M1910 M-Sch and do the job killing game.These pointed bullets will not work as well if seated deeper.

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I have 400 or so 270 grain rnsp (as Hornady 3715) for sighting in and 'paper punching', but live in an area where any lead projectiles are now banned for hunting. Mere possession of ammunition with a trace of lead that will chamber in a firearm one is carrying or has access to while hunting here is now verboten. Hence my quest is for a non - lead projectile of the same profile (or very close to it) as DWM 531, preferably 270 grain.


Kuduae:
Me too. As I hunt the Lower Saxony state forests, I had to use "unleaded " bullets for 4 years now. I too have used the 270 gr Hornady RNs and still have several hundreds stored away. But by regulations I was forced to change to an available pure copper bullet. As I found, the Barnes TTX bullets have a "curvy", tangent ogive point with a small "flat" hollow point. If seated out to the max oal the M1910 magazine allows, the bullets are held reasonably close to the follower spindle by the bullet guide. Yes, my loads work in the M1910 magazine. Granted, the Hornady RNs worked a bit smoother, but there is little choice now.
Such pure copper bullets are much longer than conventional lead core ones of the same weight. The 235 gr TTX is longer than the 270gr RN, but seated out in the 9x57 M-S = .375 Rimless NE it just fills the case neck. The longer 270 gr TSX protudes into the case body, eating up powder space. So I could not load more than 50 gr N140 behind the 270 gr TTX, giving away a lot of velocity. My load, with the 235 gr TTX in front of 55 gr N140, reads out 2400 fps from my 50 cm = 20" barrel over my chrony.



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* Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator 03/11/18 07:52 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/11/18 08:22 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   04/11/18 12:18 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   04/11/18 12:56 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DarylS   04/11/18 06:24 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   04/11/18 03:15 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   04/11/18 05:17 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? sharps4590   05/11/18 12:43 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   06/11/18 06:19 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   04/11/18 12:07 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   06/11/18 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? fsrmg1   10/11/18 12:44 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   14/11/18 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   09/03/24 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Marrakai   09/03/24 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   10/03/24 05:06 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DarylS   10/03/24 05:52 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   10/03/24 02:15 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Vintage_Canvas   23/02/24 06:26 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   23/02/24 12:22 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Jose50   22/02/24 01:08 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   22/02/24 02:27 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/12/18 08:12 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Sarg   21/12/18 06:28 PM
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. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   20/11/18 09:03 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   21/11/18 01:35 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   27/11/18 04:57 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   28/11/18 04:24 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   28/11/18 05:32 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   29/11/18 06:34 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   29/11/18 03:43 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   02/12/18 04:34 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   29/11/18 06:22 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   28/11/18 08:56 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   06/11/18 04:40 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   24/01/19 05:45 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   29/01/19 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   30/01/19 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? JDL   25/01/19 12:34 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   25/01/19 05:05 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? 93x64mm   25/01/19 07:02 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   03/11/18 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/11/18 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/11/18 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   04/11/18 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 04:27 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? 93x64mm   05/11/18 08:42 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 03:03 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   03/11/18 07:59 PM
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