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Louis
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Heeren system
23/03/18 11:46 PM

I am not familiar with the Heeren system and I would like to learn more about it.

I understand from previous posts, mainly originating from Kuduae, that the Heeren action was invented by Count Arturo Massa y Heeren, in 1880; patent was subsequently given to Nagel & Menz in Baden-Baden and actions made by the Suhl guntrade, first by Stephan Heym jr., then by his son Max Heym. After the patent expired the Heyms, father and son, made the rifles under their own name. Max Heym had the word "Heeren" protected as a trademark. Max Heym continued up to 1938, when he sold out to Ernst Kerner & Co. because of old age. Kerner continued to make Heeren actions and rifles until 1945.

My questions are :
• Who developped the side safety that was not visible on the initial actions, and from which year dates back this development ?
o Early Nagel & Menz action without side safety:

o Later action with side safety :

• When did the 1880 patent expired ?
• Until when was the Heeren trademark protected ?
• Where post-WW2 Glaser Heeren actions manufactured by Omega in Switzerland standard Heeren actions or was the mechanism modified by Glaser ?
• Who - apart maybe, Hartmann & Weiss and the Ferlach guntrade, manufactures Heeren actions nowadays ?
• Heeren rifles were to my knowledge originally available in 6,5 , 7 and 8 mm European calibres mostly (and by extension now in their US equivalent) but not in bigger calibres such as 9,3 (or US equivalent nowadays). Should this mean that the Heeren falling block action is not adapted to them ?
• Are there any good books or publications, in English or in German, on the Heeren system ?

Thank you in advance for any information shared.

Louis

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Heeren system	Louis	23/03/18 11:46 PM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	24/03/18 04:28 AM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	24/03/18 06:00 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	24/03/18 06:35 AM
Re: Heeren system	kuduae	24/03/18 08:33 PM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	24/03/18 10:27 PM
Re: Heeren system	DORLEAC	24/03/18 11:42 PM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	25/03/18 12:09 AM
Re: Heeren system	tinker	25/03/18 03:03 AM
Re: Heeren system	DarylS	25/03/18 05:32 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	25/03/18 08:58 PM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	25/03/18 09:02 PM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	25/03/18 11:57 PM
Re: Heeren system	lancaster	26/03/18 04:45 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	26/03/18 05:14 AM
Re: Heeren system	lancaster	26/03/18 05:33 AM
Re: Heeren system	Waidmannsheil	27/03/18 07:21 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	28/03/18 04:06 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	28/03/18 04:16 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	28/03/18 04:19 AM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	28/03/18 04:22 AM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	28/03/18 07:25 PM
Re: Heeren system	Waidmannsheil	28/03/18 07:31 PM
Re: Heeren system	chapmen	29/03/18 03:12 AM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	02/05/20 10:34 PM
Re: Heeren system	DarylS	03/05/20 02:41 AM
Re: Heeren system	93x64mm	03/05/20 09:43 AM
Re: Heeren system	Waidmannsheil	03/05/20 02:40 PM
Re: Heeren system	lancaster	03/05/20 03:13 PM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	04/05/20 12:53 AM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	04/05/20 02:10 AM
Re: Heeren system	DarylS	04/05/20 03:43 AM
Re: Heeren system	Waidmannsheil	04/05/20 07:07 AM
Re: Heeren system	Igorrock	04/05/20 02:55 PM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	04/05/20 06:27 PM
Re: Heeren system	paradox_	05/05/20 02:33 PM
Re: Heeren system	Louis	07/05/20 06:29 PM
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