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Thanks guys. Over the past year or so I've seen several cut-down #4s, and a couple of #1s, so it shouldn't be too hard to get my hands on one. I just wasn't sure which one to watch for.

The #5 I used in TX did ok, but really should be re-barreled. It beat the crap out of my shoulder, but it always worked, no problems feeding in almost 400 rounds. It does leave a bit to be desired in the accuracy department. . . . Its also not for sale, or I'd be looking for a new barrel instead of a rifle.

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The No5's can have a wandering zero problem. The amours at the British proving grounds worked that out to be because they shaved a little to much metal from the side of the action. Had the same problem with No4's they did the same to. Also they were meant for 0 to 200 yard range, mostly under 50. Some put a slip on recoil pad to reduce the effects. 400 through any 308 sized cartridge would work most peoples shoulder.

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