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3DogMike
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Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun
23/02/18 04:31 PM

Just looked at the GI advert photos again, and expanded the frame for a closeup of the left side action bar......

Very clearly engraved: “CHARGE 4 1/2 DRAMS, 500/450, 3 1/4” CASE”.....that is a BP load.

The rifle in question is unarguably ORIGINALLY a .500/.450 3 1/4” Black Powder Express, while made to a heavier weight appropriate to the “Magnum” BPE.

THIS IS IMPORTANT:
Yes......BPE rifles were reproved for Nitro, no doubt about that, and fairly common. Quite likely for NfB or Light Cordite though. Be aware that full Nitro loads are fully 50% higher pressure than the original BP loads or the equivalent NfB/Light Cordite.
The issue? Full Nitro equivalent to the 75 Cordite 480 grain load could beat the rifle loose in short order.

Any Nitro Proof marks should show reproof “crown/R” along with the seller stated “crown/NP” from Birmingham on or after 1904.
Very curious now as to the load for which the rifle was reproved? NfB? Light Cordite? Full 70-75/480 Nitro?
Once again, the barrel flats WILL tell the tale if properly reproved in England.

Best of luck on your sale.....as stated, a nice looking rifle.
- Mike

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Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	Westley375	21/02/18 11:30 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	3DogMike	21/02/18 04:35 PM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	CptCurl	22/02/18 12:13 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	bouldersmith	22/02/18 06:20 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	CptCurl	22/02/18 09:25 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	bouldersmith	22/02/18 10:10 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	Westley375	22/02/18 10:56 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	bouldersmith	22/02/18 11:14 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	Westley375	22/02/18 11:06 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	CptCurl	23/02/18 10:58 PM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	bouldersmith	24/02/18 01:00 AM
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Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	Westley375	24/02/18 10:34 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	3DogMike	24/02/18 11:33 AM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	Westley375	24/02/18 01:08 PM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	3DogMike	24/02/18 03:04 PM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	Westley375	24/02/18 03:34 PM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	CptCurl	24/02/18 11:19 PM
Re: Holland & Holland 500-450 Hammergun	8borerifle	24/02/18 11:30 PM
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