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Re: Is the 40 S&W DEAD???
      15/11/17 02:24 AM

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my glock 19 is virtually infallible . but my 1911 still functions smoother. yes it can jam and is heavy, still i have complete confidence in both guns . since the fbi keeps data on about everything i wonder which round has the most kills overall on the street. by thugs, cops and civilians. watchin first 48 the other night and thug 1 was killed by thug 2 with about 8 rounds of 22 automatic.these people kill each other straight away without any training or practice. some my not even know if the gun will shoot. [they love the high point]there must be some mindset to killing in anger that trumps all the training and practice. i believe that maybe a big player in why cops miss and thugs hit. also special forces are trained to kill without thinking or remorse.




Most people can not voluntarily kill another in cold blood. It was found way back that infantry soldiers would deliberately fire to miss, about 4% had a psychopathic streak that allowed them to. Hence the use of human like figures as targets, human shape sacks of straw for bayonet practice, and the propaganda that dehumanized the enemy. The bad guys tend to have a higher rate of psychopathic streaks and find it easy to shoot a person + they tend to shoot effectively at closer ranges and not at longer unless a natural or trained.




I have read the same info you state above..

Feeling bad however, the one time I become a member of a small group of people, the term "psychopathic" is attached to it...

Ripp




Hot blood vs cold blood makes a big difference.

Eg an intruder in your house threatening you

vs

an intruder who has given up and is cowering on the fllor under your muzzle.

Eg 2 - a person armed and intent on killing you

vs

a person who is walking along a path in the forest, unarmed and you want to shoot and kill them for some reason.

Yes the first two examples are probably very much easier to act on than the second two examples. The first ones might be considered self defence. The second two examples would be considered murder.

Repetition and training makes a big difference. Raise and shoot your target as soon as you obtain the target. If in a threatened situation, do you raise your gun and think of the consequences of firing. I think good self defence training would be, IF you are already being threatened, raise and fire your gun instantly. BUT a person may well have a couple of years and hundred thousand dollars or more of legal court appearances and fees at the best. If the authorities decide to charge and pursue you legally. As they do in many cases.

"I was personally feeling threatened with my life in danger. And/or my family. IU acted unconsciously in fear of my life. The man had broked into my house and was threatening me. I was afraid for my life."

Forget any "castle doctrine" BS. That would get you into a court fast.




AGREE
was in a class last week..was given an example of a Japanese man who purchased a little story in the city..kept getting robbed..7 times in one year..so brought a gun to the store..would be robber comes into the store..holding a gun to store owner..store owner was ordered to give all money out of till..store owner reaches like he is getting the money and pulls the handgun..shoots and hits the robber dead center in the chest..walks around the corner of the counter..looks down at the robber.. steps over robber..looking down at him and dumps 3 more rounds into robbers head..ALL ON SURVEILLANCE CAMERA..needless to say the SO is now spending his life in prison..had he stopped with the first shot, which in all likelihood killed him already, he would have been fine most likely..but to then walk over and pump 3 more rounds into his head..might be considered a bit excessive by some..as the very least, shut off the camera..

Ripp

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