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Rule303
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???
17/09/16 04:04 PM

Gryph, spot on. Plenty of DG shot using push feed as well as CRF.

Lonewolf the reference to a 700 cycling inverted was brought about by a few M98 one eyed supports claiming CRF would cycle upside down and PF would not. Buggered if I know why you would want to do it.

So far Rem make the claim not to have had a 700 action fail, yes barrels have gone down range but the action has held, bolt has not come back at the shooter even with massive overloads. Action might be stuffed but it has not failed. Not so with M98.

Gas handling, I am no expert in this area. However those who do or should know claim the Savage 110 based actions and the 700 are designed to handle escaping gas and do it well. Apparently none of the other US designed rifles are as well designed for this. This includes the Ruger 77 and Win M70. Take the Rem extractor out of a 700 and replace it with a Sako style extractor and you have just nutted the 700. Gas handling goes out the door and pieces of bolt can and have come back at the shooter. The Sako style extractor is weaker than the 700's all things being in top order.

You can short stroke a M98 and have a foul up. This includes rechambering the empty and trying to fire what the person believes is a live round. Produces some very entertaining moments on a range. This is actually less likely with a PF.

Also the 700 is a descendant of the P14/M17 action, yes this was close to the M98.

No to be sacrilegious. Double Rifles are not bee all of DG armaments. They can and do fail. From an old African hand. Open and close one in long grass covered in dust/dirt. Unless you cover it there is chances are you won't be able to get it closed. Dust will have entered the action to prevent it closing properly. Same if for what ever reason you manage to drop it while reloading.

There is a saying that some of the graves in the Nairobi cemetery wouldn't be there if the person was using a double rifle, probably true. Also it is said there are graves there that wouldn't be if the person had been using a bolt gun instead of a double.

Like I said. Choose the system/rifle you wont, go use it.

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The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	01/09/16 10:57 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Postman	02/09/16 03:34 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	02/09/16 10:08 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	NitroX	04/09/16 04:26 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	04/09/16 05:03 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	NitroX	04/09/16 06:17 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	04/09/16 06:40 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Wanabebwana	07/09/16 01:36 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	07/09/16 03:51 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	08/09/16 09:44 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	BillG500	08/09/16 10:26 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	08/09/16 05:26 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	09/09/16 12:54 AM
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	lonewulf	09/09/16 09:31 AM
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	15/09/16 10:59 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	lonewulf	16/09/16 10:27 AM
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	16/09/16 12:50 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	lonewulf	16/09/16 01:18 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	18/09/16 05:41 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	18/09/16 06:01 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Rule303	18/09/16 07:03 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	19/09/16 01:29 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Postman	16/09/16 11:46 PM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	lonewulf	17/09/16 09:30 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	gryphon	17/09/16 09:47 AM
Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Rule303	17/09/16 04:04 PM
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Rule303	16/09/16 07:13 PM
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???	Ripp	16/09/16 04:14 AM
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