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Ripp
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Re: The greatest rifle ever made???
      16/09/16 12:50 PM

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Hi Lonewulf:

Your passion is both admirable and noteworthy...... Agreed that under stress, people do strange things, whether it be short stroking a push feed or cycling a CRF bolt 5 times, forgetting to pull the trigger and having 5 unfired cartridges hurled in the mud. Ultimately, if it takes CRF to save people from themselves then so be it but I do believe that you can't truly save people from themselves, and you can't fix stupid. People will do all manner of weird things under pressure no matter how much technology or design work one throws at it. I think the statistics would be in your favour suggesting more people would have a higher tendency to short stroke as a human design fault, so we need to design our DG rifles, i.e. Mauser for the lowest common human denominator, no matter how pitiful that may be. In any event, I don't think there is a better all time rifle design than the Mauser. Most modern bolt guns as has been previously noted share that fundamental lineage.

Respectfully,

Postman




Agree--and as I have both seen and talked to those who have had issues, controlled round is far from fool proof. One of the most infamous incidents I can think of is a local booking agent in this area who is known worldwide for both their business and hunting exploits. He and his wife were hunting buffalo in Zim..wife wounded a bull..they went in the following morning..wife shot, tried to get another round in the chamber, rifle jammed, buff hit wife..wife spent 6 months in hospitals both in Africa, Europe and US..one issue pointed out in the article is, especially with the short fat cases, you need to pull the bolt all the way to the rear to get the empty case ejected which is causing some jamming issues..the other is on my Mauser type action I can't just go ahead and drop a live round in the chamber and slam it shut..has to first go in the magazine..again probably based on what I have used the most. but I am much quicker doing in with a push feed..

Each to their own but I have hunted lion, leopard, elephant, hippo, buffalo and an entire host of other not so dangerous species with a good old Remington custom shop .416..no issues and frankly even though I have 3 controlled round feeds in the safe, will probably keep using it ..if you feel safer using a controlled, by all means go ahead..have to use what you are comfortable with ..after all its still kind of a free world..


Ripp

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