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Yup. The design being a bastardized form of the M98 sans CRF is basically not a bad design at all, enabling modular mass production in staggering volumes. However and it's a big however, the care that goes into assembling these things is beyond dismal... I've literally experienced the scope base holes completely off centre and running diagonally across the top of the action. I have also experienced another whereby the bolt face machining was thoroughly buggered. The little spring steel circlip extractor was loose and flopping around in a lovely spacious groove that was supposed to be a precisely machined slot. That particular rifle would not extract rounds at all and had to go back for a total rifle replacement. Accuracy has been anywhere from astounding to mediocre in my experience. These things are built with no regard whatsoever to the engineering / design specs, and therefore do not grace my vault with the exception of an old 760 pump rifle that time has proven to be both accurate and utterly reliable...

I once loaded a VERY hot round in a 7mm Rem Mag mod 700 and froze the bolt closed - obviously my fault and in no way the fault of the rifle. I beat it with a piece of firewood to open it but the braised on handle stayed on just fine. That cheesy little extractor circlip made of hardened spring steel worked as intended and was effective enough to pull right through the brass rim of the stuck case, demonstrating how truly strong those little buggers are when properly constructed..... (I dare say, maybe even stronger than some of the claw extractors out there that have on some occasions broken off at the bend which I have personally experienced). That rifle had to go to a gun smith that used a stuck case extractor tool to fix up the rifle, and same smith gave me a proper beating for being such a reloading idiot in the first place ( side note : my hand loading skills have improved dramatically over the decades since that holy shit moment of foolishness)

So, I do believe that the Remington model 700 is truly a masterful and potentially highly accurate and reliable design, incorporating all manner of cost cutting measures and selling at a price point that brings a fine shooting rifle to the masses..... Now if they would actually take the proper time and due care in building them properly and as per design intent, we'd really be on to something. But I do agree that most all Remington products fall far short of the mark.... Even the ammo is crap. The only misfire I ever had from factory ammo in all the years I've been shooting was a .30-60 round that sort of popped and fizzled powder out of the end of the barrel instead of going bang like all good cartridges should.

So, I've now slagged Remington a good deal, but putting the quality issues aside, is CRF imperative if one knows how to operate the bolt properly? One should NEVER encounter a round in the chamber and be trying to jack one in behind it.... Operator error!!!!! I've jammed up a CRF rifle for that matter, failing to open up the bolt properly to throw the old casing clear and having the rifle partially clinging to a stovepiped case with another round commencing forward movement but unable to pop in behind the claw...... Lesson learned by me when I was a much younger man: operate the damn equipment properly whatever its operating parameters may be. As long as it's properly built, one should not have issues.

Not looking to offend anyone here, but I am genuinely interested in the rich dialogue. I've recently spent an obscene amount of money ordering up a beautiful shiny new .416 Rigby, in, yes, you guessed it, a CRF design.

Edited by Postman (10/09/16 06:50 AM)

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