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More information is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_rifle

He was dead right about scopes IMHO: far too many scopes with flimsy tubes in flimsy mounts that do nothing to protect the scope from blows, and often mounted far too high. To say nothing of the fugly bases and rings we make nowadays. I'd say his aesthetic sense was excellent, certainly unique as well.

He probably should have had a scope tube made thick out of titanium and a simpler mount, but I'm not even sure that would give the same support and rigidity. And if you can't hit your target with a fixed 6x I doubt a 10-24x variable is going to get you there either.

"Lloyd rifles are generally accurate, with most shooting to 1.5 MOA or better; but the massive scope mounts integral to the Lloyd concept had the effect of bending and torquing the rifles' actions out of blueprint. This inevitably caused stresses and imperfections, preventing the rifles achieving the full precision accuracy potential of the cartridges used. But within the approximately 300 yard ranges for which they had been designed and zeroed, Lloyd's rifles in fast magnum calibres performed very well. The majority of Lloyd rifles were chambered in .244 H&H Magnum, .264 Winchester Magnum and .25-06 Remington."

I'm a bit sceptical to say the least of that statement about the scope mounts "bending and torquing the rifles' actions out of blueprint". There is no connection between them except the scope tube, so how could they do that? Only if one mount was left tight while a knucklehead attempted to adjust the other one. Unless of course Lloyd designed his mounts to imitate the good old "Suhler Einhakmontage" by twisting the scope tube and front rings when the rear rings were adjusted for windage. That seems highly unlikely however.

He obviously believed in recycling with those WWI surplus Gew98 actions he seemed to favour.

I've admired the Lloyd rifles since I first saw them.

http://www.shootinguk.co.uk/reviews/rifle/david-lloyd-rifle

http://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auctio...145/lot-3806174

Edited by Old_Glass (30/05/16 05:50 PM)

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