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Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value?
      02/05/16 10:14 AM

Quote:

By doubleriflejack

Within this thread, 4seventy wrote: "The action is of the assisted opening type."
Rockdoc wrote: "The self opening action is, like Purdey's, a bit of a knack to close."
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Rockdoc is correct, while 4seventy is not. It is, indeed, a self opener; not an assisted opener. Many guys consider the self opener the same as an assisted opener, but they are not the same. Many more guys don't know the difference between the two, though they should learn, and stop spreading wrong information on websites.
Many people, including some who should know better, get self openers and easy openers confused; some don't know the difference between the two.


Only four true self openers have ever been developed and made in numbers: 1. the first and most significant by Frederick Beesley (his first design used, of course, by Purdey right up to the present day); his second concept, a modification of his original design, used by Charles Lancaster





Jack,
So it is incorrect to describe the Beesley/Lancaster system as 'assisted opening' huh?
Well for your information here's a quote from some "expert" who is also calling it an assisted opener.

Quote:

Beesley invented two systems for self cocking, spring cocking, and added assisted opening as well to these actions. One of these two spring powered self cocking systems he sold to Purdey; the other he himself used on his guns, as did other gun makers, mostly Lancaster,.....



Now who was it who posted that? . Wait a minute, it was someone called........ doubleriflejack!!
It was in fact you!!

Here it is.



Edited by 4seventy (02/05/16 06:13 PM)

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* Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile 12/04/16 11:07 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? doubleriflejack   02/05/16 07:14 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? 4seventy   02/05/16 10:14 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? doubleriflejack   03/05/16 05:29 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   03/05/16 07:57 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? WildCattle   20/04/16 02:06 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   21/04/16 01:44 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   21/04/16 01:59 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Huvius   21/04/16 03:55 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   21/04/16 04:04 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   21/04/16 05:18 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   03/05/16 08:02 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   21/04/16 06:46 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   21/04/16 07:25 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Wayne59   21/04/16 08:35 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? 3DogMike   21/04/16 10:24 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Brithunter   23/04/16 08:05 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   24/04/16 10:49 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   21/04/16 10:19 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? 4seventy   12/04/16 01:43 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   12/04/16 03:28 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? 4seventy   13/04/16 03:13 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   13/04/16 03:56 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? 4seventy   14/04/16 12:52 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? 93x64mm   16/04/16 08:14 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rhodes   12/06/16 09:22 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Huvius   16/04/16 12:41 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   16/04/16 04:16 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   16/04/16 07:41 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Wayne59   16/04/16 11:29 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Huvius   16/04/16 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? NitroXAdministrator   03/05/16 08:04 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Wayne59   03/05/16 12:50 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? stug   03/05/16 03:24 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? stug   03/05/16 07:22 PM
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. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gryphon   03/05/16 06:25 PM
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. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   14/04/16 08:39 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? lancaster   15/04/16 05:40 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   15/04/16 06:31 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Well_Well_Well   15/04/16 08:39 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   15/04/16 09:03 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   15/04/16 11:01 AM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   15/04/16 12:35 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   15/04/16 01:50 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Mike_Bailey   15/04/16 05:06 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   15/04/16 05:45 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? pondoro62   15/04/16 07:14 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   15/04/16 08:26 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? gallipliphile   13/04/16 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   13/04/16 10:09 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Rockdoc   13/04/16 10:18 PM
. * * Re: Lancaster Double in.450 Rigby #2 ... value? Wayne59   12/04/16 11:19 AM
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