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I have no doubt that a 7 mm Remington Ultra Magnum sired this 6.5 newbie magnum. As for performance, I believe that the Indian is of more importance than the arrow. Terry Wieland reported that his Nosler rifle, firing Nosler factory ammunition, was a good 200 fps less than he had hoped for. It was still moving, just not as fast as it was hyped.

Powder technology will allow this cartridge to do what it should do in the hands of hand loaders. If not now, very soon. Someone will find that one of the newest slow burning numbers is the stuff for this cartridge.

It will never be a best seller and I think that is the point of this cartridge. It is something different. Something that sets the owner apart from the pack. This means fewer troglodytes to make a mess of things like what happened with the 7 STW, and the original .264 Winchester.

If anyone doubts what happened with these small bore numbers, just ask yourself what happens when you shoot a large bull elk with a thinly jacketed projectile, that is a bit short on sectional density, and moving at a breath taking velocity. Now do this again and again. Many of these gun owners were caught up in the notion that the higher the ballistic coefficient, the better the bullet. Cost being a consideration for many for these shooters, they chose the cheapest bullets that shot the flattest.

The best thing that Winchester did with the .264, was to neck it up to .338. Only because in the 1950's, at .338 Winchester velocities, there were really not a lot of terrible bullets. Bullet technology has improved immensely since the 1950's, I hope that shooters have caught up.

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I read a article recently by John Barsness who chronographed factory loads as well as his own loads..in his case he actually was getting the advertised velocity. There is also a really good article in this years Hodgdon reloading manual on it--lots of loads and good info..as I previously mentioned it seems US869 is the powder of choice however I am also getting really good results with Retumbo..and betting H1000 would also work very well

Agree with you thoughts on bullets...premium bullets only for the high velocity rounds..especially when you start taking on deer and elk sized game.

Saw Weatherby is also going to come out this year with their own verison of a 6.5 HOTROD..based on the 300 Weatherby case..for me, the immediate disadvantage this offers over the 26 Nosler round is the new Weatherby round will have a belt..where the 26Nosler is not..having said that I experimented with a 7/300 Weatherby round back before the RUM's came out..actually took it on my first trip to Alaska..had it on a Remington action/Hart barrel combo..incredible accurate, very flat shooting and not that reasonable in the recoil department. Had 150gr Swift Scirocco's cruising just shy of the 3500fps range--absolutely stoned everything I shot with it..which was 2 caribou and a wolf on that trip. Used it on elk and deer here in Montana as well..

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Edited by Ripp (23/11/15 03:21 AM)

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