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Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones.
      19/02/15 08:44 PM

There is far more to engineering than just copying a part and making it look shiny. Material composition, heat treatment and surface coatings are just as important. This is why it took the Chinese so long to produce a rocket that would fly for more than two seconds without blowing up, even though they had samples to copy. Maybe one day they will be as good but not yet by a long shot. You only have to look at the cars that they make which are not much cheaper than the Japanese models which they copy but are crap of epic proportions. Unreliable and made with wafer thin panels and plastic components that break when touched. Chinese bearings which look identical to bearings made by Western companies last max 5% of the time of good quality bearings, and are not much cheaper anyway. CV joints which look identical but are made from mild steel and are not heat treated and last in many cases on trip before they blow up. Most of these items are not made for Western businesses but are their own manufactured products that they are trying to sell to the world. Their quality is also very unreliable as samples presented will often be of much better quality than those produced once an order has been placed. You normally can not trace which company made the components as the company who you place the order with will farm the job out to several different companies all over China and when questioned fain ignorance and suddenly can't speak English which they could before. I would suggest that anyone who thinks that the Chinese are capable of high quality manufacture on a large scale is not involved in engineering in any way.
Just because you produce a lot of product does not mean it is any good, just look at the Soviet Union. They had huge manufacturing capacity with a lot of clever people but produced crap.

I would question any rifle action made in China which sells in the West for $295, which means it was probably bought from the Chinese for $100. The material would be complete crap and the manufacturing extremely rough with little to no heat treatment. Mayfair, Prechtl, GMA etc. make actions that are superb and to do that it costs money. I would bet that those companies are not making a killer profit on each action but rather one that allows them to survive without government subsidies.

Buying products made in China at extremely low prices kills of companies which make a quality products. Then all that is left is Chinese crap, and when they know that they are the only ones in the world making a particular product because the competitors have gone broke, the quality really drops off.

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* Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Wanabebwana 19/02/15 02:44 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. KWJohnston   29/03/15 06:36 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. ColoradoMatt1   26/03/15 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. ducmarc   28/03/15 01:58 PM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Rule303   28/03/15 10:21 PM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. lancaster   19/02/15 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Huvius   19/02/15 03:40 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Wanabebwana   19/02/15 07:10 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. DORLEAC   19/02/15 09:12 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Huvius   19/02/15 09:50 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Waidmannsheil   19/02/15 06:48 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Huvius   19/02/15 10:10 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. DORLEAC   19/02/15 05:22 PM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Tentman   19/02/15 07:14 PM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. 500Boswell   19/02/15 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Huvius   20/02/15 12:49 AM
. * * Re: Modern Mauser actions. Why we love the old ones. Waidmannsheil   19/02/15 08:44 PM
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