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Re: Why solder?
      04/11/14 12:40 AM

Waidmannsheil,
I understand your idea about doing the threading precisely but to compare the threaded barrels on bolt actions and the threads cut on the inside of mono blocks is like comparing apples to oranges. The bolt guns have very thick walls and they are screwed into thick walled actions. With a monoblock you don't have the luxury of all that barrel thickness, no matter how fine a thread you cut inside a monoblock, you will substancially weaken the walls of the monoblock up to or exceeding 50 percent. It can't be helped because you are cutting away half of the wall thickness of the monoblock.
By using Hi Force and getting all the mating surfaces thoroughly tinned before trying to put them together, you will get almost 100 percent of the holding strength of the solder, which is listed at 28,000 PSI. If we round off the circumference of a typical barrel stub as being 3 inches around, which is pretty close in most cases, then take that times the length or the stubs, another three inches, that squares out at 9 square inches of mating surfaces per side.
When you multipy that out you will come up with 252,000 pounds of holding strength PER SIDE. The British and the Italians have been monoblocking barrels for many years and using softer solders than this to do it. This is not theory, I have done lots of guns this way and none of them have come apart yet. Bob

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* Why solder? meharold 11/07/14 10:47 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? DarylS   11/07/14 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? meharold   12/07/14 12:19 PM
. * * Re: Why solder? Birdhunter50   20/07/14 04:06 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? Waidmannsheil   20/07/14 09:40 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? Birdhunter50   04/11/14 12:40 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? DarylS   04/11/14 03:16 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? Waidmannsheil   04/11/14 08:46 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? AkMike   04/11/14 03:33 PM
. * * Re: Why solder? dpcd67   05/11/14 06:48 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? DarylS   05/11/14 10:52 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? Birdhunter50   06/11/14 01:25 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? Shotgunlover   06/11/14 03:21 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? tinker   06/11/14 05:07 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? doubleriflejack   06/11/14 07:57 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? DarylS   06/11/14 09:30 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? dpcd67   08/11/14 04:06 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? TennHillBilly   08/11/14 11:37 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? Shotgunlover   08/11/14 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Why solder? dpcd67   09/11/14 06:02 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? TennHillBilly   22/07/14 02:21 AM
. * * Re: Why solder? dpcd67   03/11/14 06:08 AM

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