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No set standard for me. But if for example that guy was shooting at an animal at 3000 yards and he wounds an animal it should IMO be regarded a cruelty and an offence, as it is highly likely a miss or a wound would result. A kill would just be luck. Of course he is shooting at a steel plate and it is just good fun and a test of incredible shooting and accuracy.

In the "old days" it was common to encounter clowns selling a rifle, "this .308 Winchester" will easily and regularly kill goats to 800 yards ...". You knew you were talking to an idiot.

The point is most guys think 200 yards is a lot further than it really is. 400 yards is a hell of a long way. 600 yards is over the horizon ...

Rangefinders help these days and also aid better trajectory estimation.

Most of my 'trophy' kills have been at 150 yards or a lot less. Many of the feral kills have been further away. Why the difference? Maybe some factors include: trophy fees lost if wounding; wanting to make a clean kill shot on an important animal. Ferals are often shot in larger numbers and sometimes you try to kill a whole herd.

I think the longest shots at a herd of feral goats was about 400 yards away. Crossing a cliff face on a track, I had a rest on my daypack. I shot each one as it crossed the cliff, it fell off the cliff. Until I wounded one, and it lay below bleating. It took a number of shots and also getting closer to kill it.

The longest shot I have taken and a miss was at maybe 600 or 700 metres at a animal with a 7 mm STW. A friend's rifle, he urged me to take the shot.

In some places like plains and mountains a longer shot might be necessary and also where it may be the only opportunity. I can understand people doing this when necessary.

These extreme long range shots at game in the videos we see from time to time, why can't the guys stalk closer and actually hunt? In most cases it would be perfectly possible. Instead they choose to risk wounding and loosing the animal, say 800 yards away, and 800 yards of effort and time to get close to where the shot was taken before follow up can even be tried. Plus almost no chance of a second shot on a wounded animal at extreme long range. My reasons for not liking it.

The videos of the wounded game are almost never posted on these videos of people trying to sell their LR rifles, scopes or whatever. The guy shooting at 300 yds could easily have only shown the bullseye hit on the target, but is an honest guy.

As for long range practice on say woodchucks or rabbits or varmints with a big rifle. Usually any hit is a killer so good practice.

Just my thoughts and some comments in answer.

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John aka NitroX

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Edited by NitroX (15/09/14 04:40 PM)

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