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Huvius
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Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.
18/07/14 11:31 PM

There are actually two different aspects of using a BPE rifle today (or a 45/70 for that matter).
One is the velocity of course and the other is the construction of the bullet.
The velocities using NfB loading today can be faster than BP at the same or even lower pressures, but in a double that isn't very helpful for regulation. May be nice in a single, but with higher speed comes the need for bullets with better construction than lead although you can't really approach NE speeds safely anyway.
Today we have bullet choices far beyond the grease groove or paper patched lead bullets which these rifles originally fired.
Obviously, a tougher bullet will penetrate better than a softer bullet at the same speed.
A good friend's son recently shot an elephant with his .500 BPE rifle using CEB bullets (made to his barrel specs) and at BPE velocities ran the bullet through a rib, through the heart, and into the off leg. Ran about 50yds and piled up.
I doubt that a lead bullet is capable of doing that and I also doubt that the same bullet at 500fps faster velocity would have performed much differently.
That bullet is at one end of the spectrum of course (and ugly) but to my thinking, if our predecessors had similar bullet options, there would have been no need to use such high velocities which in turn required stronger bullets. I imagine that with the development of cordite and NC powders, the higher acheivable velocities required bullets which could perform better. Kind of a vicious cycle or the old which came first question.

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45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	TOBY458	18/07/14 09:52 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	Ripp	18/07/14 10:02 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	TOBY458	18/07/14 10:38 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	Ripp	18/07/14 10:46 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	TOBY458	18/07/14 11:21 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	18/07/14 11:58 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	18/07/14 12:10 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	18/07/14 12:18 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	TOBY458	18/07/14 12:55 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	18/07/14 10:43 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	Ripp	18/07/14 11:02 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	Huvius	18/07/14 11:31 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	hunter_angler	18/07/14 11:44 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	DarylS	19/07/14 01:57 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	19/07/14 03:04 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	hunter_angler	19/07/14 05:17 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	DarylS	19/07/14 05:05 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	TOBY458	19/07/14 05:32 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	19/07/14 06:38 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	Ripp	20/07/14 11:07 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	NitroX	20/07/14 05:53 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	DarylS	21/07/14 04:25 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	Ash	16/08/14 12:13 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	DarylS	16/08/14 01:36 PM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	9.3x57	16/08/14 02:08 PM
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Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	TOBY458	20/07/14 04:18 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	spinna	20/07/14 09:31 AM
Re: 45/70 Lever Action On Australian Water Buffalo.	DarylS	19/07/14 05:28 AM

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