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Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why?
      23/04/14 01:38 PM

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My bore scope told a slightly different story. All three had leades that looked like a tractor had dragged a nasty farm implement across the lands within the throat. The rest of the bore was equivalent to the quality of a Remington. This is NOT a compliment. Tool marks, smeared lands, utterly disgusting lack of care and craftsmanship.




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Personally feel, especially based on your findings of the bore scope..in todays world as has been normally always the case, you get what you pay for..there are NO free lunchs...unless you are a democrat in the US, then you get a free lunch and a phone....

Simply put, there is a reason other than just name that you pay what you do for the other brands..

Ripp




The above is not my experience with the bores in Merkel double rifles! The fact is these barrels are rifled by cold hammer forging, and there is np more accurate way of rifling a barrel. The carbide mandrel has the lands and grooves cut in negative on the outside of the mandrel. This is pressed into the bore, and cold hammer forged compressing the barrel steel to form a positive land and groove, then stress relieved at several hundred degrees below zero tempratures. There is no reason for tool marks to be present in a cold hammer forged barrel’s bore because no tools are used to rifle that type of barrel.

Some of the most accurately rifled barrels in the gun world are cold hammer forged. Rifles like Mannlicher Shoenauer, Heym, Suuer, and the like are all cold hammer forged barrels. All made exactly the same way.

On the Merkel double rifles being made on shotgun actions! That is backwards! Merkel shotguns are made on rifle actions, not the reverse. This is one reason the rifles and shotguns can be made for the price point they can because the making of only one action for all the S/S double rifles and shotguns, just making the same action with reduced shapes for the smaller rifles and shotguns, All starting with the same basic forging.

The 140-1.2 Safari 375H&H through 500NE are made on a 20 ga SIZE action with a heavier barr and wider fences. The 140E-1 chambered from the smaller chamberings up through 9.3X74R is also made on a 20 ga but with a more thin barr, and narrower fences. The 141 double with adjustable regulation is very light,and is made on a 28 ga size action, and is chambered for the same cartridges as the 140E-1 but is extremely light. However all are made with cold hammer forged barrels, and all are build on rifle actions.

George Caswell does know his stuff, but the opinion that a Chapuis double is stronger that a Merkel is simply that HIS OPINION, and is not bared out by the facts.

I have zero problem with any of the brands mentioned in this thread, and if the fit you and that is what you want I say BUY ONE, but think a Merkel is a weak rifle is simply a mistake!

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* Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? TOBY458 04/04/14 06:15 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? bonanza   11/04/14 04:19 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? CptCurlAdministrator   04/04/14 06:49 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Huvius   04/04/14 07:57 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? CptCurlAdministrator   04/04/14 08:15 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? TOBY458   04/04/14 08:54 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Rell   04/04/14 10:17 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? TOBY458   04/04/14 02:29 PM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? rigbymauser   04/04/14 06:44 PM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Ripp   05/04/14 12:21 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? TOBY458   05/04/14 06:37 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? NitroXAdministrator   10/04/14 01:21 AM
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. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? CptCurlAdministrator   10/04/14 06:38 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? DUGABOY1   15/06/14 08:47 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Ripp   15/06/14 09:42 PM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Ripp   16/06/14 09:06 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Postman   10/04/14 01:06 PM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? Ripp   10/04/14 11:14 PM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? TOBY458   11/04/14 02:52 AM
. * * Re: Champlin doesn't recommend Merkel or Kreighoff. Why? DUGABOY1   23/04/14 01:38 PM
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