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93x64mm
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Reged: 07/12/11
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Re: 308 Norma Magnum?
30/12/13 09:36 PM

Magnum308, I have an old Parker Hale 1200 done in .308NM, now over 30 years old. The Norma ammo would group consistently for 3 shots at an inch if I held it right! Trying to get handloads to be as accurate was an impossible task - until I used AR2213!
Now I have had mine long throated so please use my data with caution as it will be above stated maximum for this powder/load combination - the projectiles are set as long as possible to feed thru the magazine (85.5mm OAL).
76gn AR2213, Federal 215 primer & 180gn Hornady Flat base - averages 3020fps
76gn AR2213, Federal 215 primer & 178gn Hornady Amax - averages 3070fps (slightly more accurate)
But interestingly both shoot to the same POI.
Yes I have gone quite a bit higher but I found these loads the most accurate in my rifle & settled on these rather than just wring it out a bit more!
Sadly I have never actually had the chance (weird this may seem) to use it on the game that I intending to use it on - pigs at long distance! And yes it is an very emphatic killer of game!
It is a good solid performer, shame it never took off like the .300WM; much more efficient overall I believe!
Basically there is nothing between these 2 cartridges, but I don't like to have "common" cartridges!
Buy the way case life is extremely good, literally lost count of the times its been reloaded; just annealed the cases last year after a few split necks. I only neck size this old bird & case stretch is practically non existent.
The only problem I have with this rifle is copper fouling; the barrel (forgotten what type it is, I think it is a McGowen?) fouls badly after a 20 shot African Plains match even if taking it slowly! Plenty of elbow grease & a good dose of Sweets or Kleen bore solvent & she's back as good as ever.
I even have a .300WM Walter adaptor cartridge redone to suit the .30carbine, they shoot 3" low at 100m, averaging 1725fps - only a pop compared to the normal full loads - but great fun!
Frankly you can't go wrong with this cartridge - worth more than a just a glance!
Cheers
93x64mm

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308 Norma Magnum?	Woodbeef	15/10/08 10:09 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	SCGunNut	20/10/08 01:28 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	magnum308	10/12/10 08:01 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	10/12/10 10:17 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	magnum308	10/12/10 10:27 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	11/12/10 05:55 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	magnum308	12/04/11 04:57 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	13/04/11 12:44 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	mbogo3	03/01/12 12:59 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	03/01/12 01:40 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	magnum308	03/01/12 04:24 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	04/01/12 05:57 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	mikeh416Rigby	04/01/12 09:24 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	93x64mm	07/07/12 08:26 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Kiwi_bloke	21/07/12 11:00 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	500Boswell	24/03/15 08:49 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Sarg	27/03/15 09:00 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	4seventy	26/03/15 09:37 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	27/03/15 03:57 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gundog	30/12/13 02:22 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	30/12/13 02:49 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	magnum308	30/12/13 03:33 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gundog	30/12/13 04:22 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	93x64mm	30/12/13 09:36 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Ash	18/03/15 12:18 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	18/03/15 01:54 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	93x64mm	18/03/15 07:15 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	18/03/15 09:21 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	18/03/15 09:48 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Ash	18/03/15 06:14 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	93x64mm	18/03/15 06:57 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Ash	18/03/15 07:57 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Ash	22/03/15 11:38 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Igorrock	23/03/15 01:17 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Ash	23/03/15 05:54 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Igorrock	23/03/15 06:12 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Ash	23/03/15 10:08 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Igorrock	23/03/15 10:26 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	24/03/15 02:20 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	xausa	24/03/15 07:46 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	albertan	21/04/15 02:55 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	22/04/15 01:55 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	24/03/15 10:08 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	SharpsNitro	24/03/15 12:53 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	93x64mm	24/03/15 06:55 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	23/03/15 03:40 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DarylS	22/07/12 03:03 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	21/07/12 12:03 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	szihn	11/12/10 06:53 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	11/12/10 02:06 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	shinz	15/10/08 03:06 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Schauckis	15/10/08 07:21 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Rolf	16/10/08 05:11 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	gryphon	16/10/08 05:49 AM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	osix	16/10/08 05:27 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	DoubleD	15/10/08 01:56 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Woodbeef	17/10/08 09:45 PM
Re: 308 Norma Magnum?	Paul	15/10/08 02:36 PM

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