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Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R
13/10/13 06:44 AM

AFAIK the Steyr factory did not sell barreled actions or actions only to other gunmakers. But as the M92, 93, 95 Romanian/Dutch/Portuguese military rifles were made only for export anyhow, they sold complete military rifles to anyone wanting them. As St.George Littledale once wrote to Denis Lyell: "In 1895 Sir Edmund Loder gave me a Mannlicher rifle, bayonet and all complete on the eve of starting for Tibet. Had only time to have sighting altered. On my protesting that I had a room full of rifles and did not want any more, all he said was try the Mannlicher, and like Lily Langtry and the soap, I have used no other since." (quote from Truesdell, The Rifle) The British imported the complete military rifles and sporterized them to varying degrees. Here are the Mannlicher ads from the 1910-11 Jeffery's catalog. As you see, the cheaper grades No. 4,5,6 retained the shortened military straight gripped stocks, with "civilian" sights and maybe checkering added, while the higher grades No.1, 2, 3 were restocked with pistol grip stocks. I know an "Army & Navy" M95 Mannlicher with such a sporterized and checkered military stock, still showing the plugged cleaning rod hole at the foreend tip.

Here is a Mannlicher that conforms in some way to Jeffery's No.1. It was proofed and probably restocked in Birmingham.

George Gibbs of Bristol did a lot of Mannlicher imports and remodelling in a quite distinctive style, also supplied other name gunmakers like Rigby, Fraser, Purdey or Atkins with his conversions. In wide parts of the British the 6.5x53R Mannlicher cartridge was called the .256 Gibbs Rimmed. According to Kirton Gibbs used the letter prefixes of his serial numbers this way:
A = completely made by us,
B = barrelled action by another, stocked, sighted and finished by us
C = complete gun bought in from another maker
This is my B-prefix G.Gibbs in .256 Gibbs Rimmed, receiver dated 1899. It retains the original Steyr military barrel, but stock, sling eyes and sights are clearly Gibbs.

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Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Spud303	08/10/13 07:42 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Carpetsahib	09/10/13 02:11 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	kuduae	09/10/13 08:07 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Claydog	09/10/13 09:01 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Spud303	09/10/13 01:34 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Claydog	09/10/13 01:41 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Igorrock	09/10/13 06:58 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Claydog	09/10/13 10:28 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	2152hq	10/10/13 12:21 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Huvius	10/10/13 02:03 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	kuduae	13/10/13 06:44 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	lancaster	13/10/13 10:56 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	kuduae	14/10/13 03:23 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Huvius	13/10/13 07:43 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	kuduae	13/10/13 08:56 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Huvius	14/10/13 02:53 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	kuduae	14/10/13 03:38 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Claydog	14/10/13 01:29 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Spud303	14/10/13 06:26 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Ireload2	17/12/13 11:56 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	tinker	17/12/13 02:59 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	2152hq	17/12/13 03:50 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	FrankS	22/12/13 10:54 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Sarg	24/12/13 09:49 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	DarylS	25/12/13 03:48 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Sarg	25/12/13 02:27 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	sparks1	23/12/13 05:10 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	2152hq	23/12/13 02:53 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	DarylS	18/12/13 04:28 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Ireload2	20/12/13 06:06 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	tinker	20/12/13 10:15 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	2152hq	22/12/13 09:12 AM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Igorrock	08/10/13 08:16 PM
Re: Forming cases for 6.5x53R	Spud303	08/10/13 08:32 PM
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