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Re: Cased pair of Howdah pistols
      11/08/13 10:18 AM

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To make an opinion which is totally incorrect is far less admirable on your part. May I ask, on what do you base your opinions and what qualifies you as an expert on anything, let alone price?

This forum is here for enjoyment, to learn, teach and trade ideas......that is correct

But, as an active participant of this forum I get very little enjoyment from reading unqualified and dumbfounded opinions such as yours, especially when relating to "price" or "values" of which you quite obviously have no clue -

In your opinion everything I own is advertised at a price three to four times what the true value should be....how can that be?

For example, I currently have a Holland & Holland Royal deluxe .500/.465 NE double rifle which is as new in the makers case. It has extra quality deluxe engraving with gold inlays. The gun is advertised at $200,000. But based on your opinion, one can buy a Holland and Holland royal deluxe double rifle in 500/465 for between $50k and $66k!

They say that Google is your friend. So if you care to browse the internet you will find that there are approximately 51 high grade double rifles currently advertised for sale by a number of reputable dealers. These include 31 H&H Royals, 8 Purdeys, 9 Rigby's and 3 Westley Richards, (plus a number of round actions which I do not count) and including the 5 guns I have advertised. The total combined value of all these rifles is approx. $8,750,000, therefore an average price of $171,500 (approx.) each. This also includes all the rifles listed as POR because I know all the prices. A number of these are cheaper valued guns because of their caliber, for example .375 so although they are included they reduce the average price considerably.

So based on these "actual" figures, my rifle priced at $200,000 is parr for the course, especially because it is a H&H, large bore, extra finish, deluxe engraved gun with gold inlays and deep chisel engraving. It is most certainly not priced at three to four times its value!

This then brings me back to my mint pair of howdah pistols made by a best London maker priced at $40,000. Recently an inferior pair of Purdey howdah pistols brought £21,000 at a London auction, plus commission. The guns were totally refinished. I have seen a small number of howdah's sold, a few single guns and few pairs (they are rare, and mine being front actioned locks, even rarer), and most if not all of them were inferior to the pair I have advertised, and several of them sold in a similar price range to mine.

Additionally, for you to say that they are not howdah pistols is just as ridiculous as saying they are overpriced.

Everyone is quite rightly entitled to their own opinion, but in this instance your "uneducated" opinion is wrong and based on nothing substantial.

Furthermore, almost everything that I have advertised, I own, that means- I invested a considerable amount of my own cash, and for doing that I deserve to make a fair profit, or a decent return on my investment.

I very much doubt, just by the nature of your stupidity, that you do not have anything invested in anything good, let alone the time it takes to study and understand the market and the fundamentals of business / ie. supply and demand! I say this with an amount of certainty because, to me, if you owned anything great then it would make common sense that you would have a vested interest in maintaining that prices stay high, simply in order to protect your own investment.

You Sir are quite simply a tire kicker, a wanna be, a photo collector, a person who only dreams of owning that which is truly great and wants to invest nothing.

In conclusion, all I can say is this: no one will learn anything from your teachings or ideas on here, so your value to this forum is highly disputable.

Thats my opinion.




This post reminds me of a few posters in years gone by that aren't posting anymore. Have to say that I don't miss them and I won't miss this guy when he tires and moves on. Any knowledgeable person who ignores the overpriced stuff at Barnett's, CSMC and our friend's here will get a much better idea of the real market. And yes, I own three very nice Holland doubles....not that that is required to have good taste.

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. * * Re: Cased pair of Howdah pistols Mike_Bailey   11/08/13 12:30 AM
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