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Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo?
      02/01/05 05:42 AM

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My 2 cents worth, I've never been to Africa and with the world the way it is I doubt I will, so all my knowledge is purely theoretical. Someone mentioned a No. 1 in 45/70, it's my understanding that in a suitably strong action such as a No. 1 the 45/70 can be handloaded to match low end .458 levels. Other than the 1 shot handicap why wouldn't that be acceptable for Buff?




No disrespect meant, but AGAIN, what about "NOT ENOUGH GUN, AND ILLEGAL" do you not understand!

Handloads are not what the laws are based on, the numbers come from the list of cartridges that are legal. That list is based on the numbers they got from factory ammo manufactures, at the time the rules were written! Asside from that, though I absolutely love the old 45-70, and have owned many, and still own a few, the 45-70 is simply not well suited to the hunting of Cape Buffalo! For those who live in North America, and have only hunted North American game, let me tell you, there is nothing in North America that can be compared to cape buffalo. In that train of thought there are animals in North America, that the 45-70 is marginal for. A cape Buffalo, once he gets his adrenalin up, is about the toughest animal on the face of the Earth, and once he charges nothing on Earth will turn him, except to turn his lights out for good! In that sittuation, I certainly do not want to be armed with a 45-70!

Nobody here, or any place I've seen, has said Cape Buffalo cannot be killed with a 45-70! Certainly they can, and have been ! However, with the very well suited choices available to the client hunter, why would he want to use an illegal, and margenal cartridge, to torture, and poor Cape Buffalo?



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* 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? *DELETED* slammer6delta 31/12/04 09:57 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? *DELETED* AussieMike   03/01/05 01:43 PM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? Rusty   01/01/05 11:27 PM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? Nframe   01/01/05 04:16 PM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DUGABOY1   02/01/05 05:42 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? bonanza   04/01/05 05:06 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? NitroXAdministrator   04/01/05 05:31 AM
. * * A really good buffalo recipe NitroXAdministrator   04/01/05 05:41 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? Nframe   02/01/05 03:19 PM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DUGABOY1   03/01/05 01:55 PM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? slammer6delta   04/01/05 03:25 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? shakari   04/01/05 04:30 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DoubleD   04/01/05 05:21 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? shakari   04/01/05 06:05 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? bonanza   04/01/05 06:10 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? shakari   04/01/05 06:43 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? 500grains   04/01/05 04:47 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? Nframe   03/01/05 03:57 PM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DUGABOY1   04/01/05 03:09 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? slammer6delta   04/01/05 04:07 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? ALAN_MCKENZIE   03/01/05 11:39 PM
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. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DUGABOY1   01/01/05 05:28 AM
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. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? 500grains   01/01/05 11:51 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DUGABOY1   01/01/05 09:23 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? slammer6delta   02/01/05 07:03 AM
. * * Re: 45-70 Marlin for Cape Buffalo? DUGABOY1   03/01/05 01:12 PM
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