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That's well put & at times, is directed at me, too, as to looking down my nose at the .30/30 - however, to look at it objectively, one must admit it has always been an effective round for it's intended game. Today, with modern loads, it is simply considerably better - and such a small, inexpensive and easy shooting round at that.

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Thanks, and again I agree. I think for years over obsession with concepts like velocity, energy and sectional density have caused many to turn away from some of the old cartridges that worked very well for their intended purposes. To a certain extent the accepted rules will always apply, but with new bullet and powder technology there is even more reason to have another look at the old soldiers and the modern performance one can achieve with them.

Imagine how revolutionary the .30-30 must have seemed in the mid 1890s. A low recoil, small bore, higher velocity, smokeless powder cartridge with expanding bullets, chambered in light carry rifles, when a lot of guys thought the .38-55 was small and for target work, and were probably still hunting deer with 15 pound Sharps buffalo rifles, or .44-40 carbines with limited effective range. How it must have challenged the conventional wisdom back then!

Of course now I guess guys like me have come full circle, and think that the old big bore rounds like the .45-70 and .50-110 are just the thing loaded with modern powders.

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