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Re: Powder Temperature debate
      10/10/12 09:19 AM

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The stabilizers in modern powders do deteriorate when subjected to heat.

But it takes at least 1,5-4 year (depending on the concentrate of NG) in 65 degree celcius to get it to a point where it start to effect the powder.

So its possible, but it will be a wery long and sweaty hunt.




450_366?

What about powders without nitroglycerin, ie: the single base stick powders made from nitrocellulose only? The double base powders are made from nitrocellulose plus nitroglycerine in varying amounts, I believe.

None of the ball or spherical powders sold by Hodgon are listed as being "Extreme". My own findings are that in -20C temps, rounds from 7X57 through '06 and .375's, when using ball or spherical powders, you can expect up to 150fps reduction is speed from a load developed in 70F temps. Then again, using ball powder, I noticed a drop of a good 175fps in my .218Bee Ruger #1 when tested at -20C (about -5F). Perhaps ctg. size does not matter as much as ctg. used. In 80F temps, it was an absolute max. load.




SB powders would land at about 2,5-3 years time, but thats aging of the powder.

I don think its if its a SB or DB powder thats the problem. A SB powder is less vulnerable to lower temeratures than the DB powders, a DB can actually produce higher pressures in extreme low temperature.

But all are affected by heat as the flame travels faster in higher temperatures. But if i remember right then about 1m/s and 1MPa to every degree celcius is a normal diffence.

So if you developed the load with -20c components and carried it in a pocket that say was 40c, it would add around 60ms and 60Mpa on the load.

Nevertheless, i dont think the pockets are hotter then the blued barrels if its used in hot climate anyway.

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* Powder Temperature debate Dresden 05/10/12 12:12 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   05/10/12 12:26 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate Dresden   05/10/12 12:16 PM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   06/10/12 12:41 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate grandveneur   06/10/12 05:41 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate Dresden   09/10/12 02:30 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   09/10/12 04:37 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate tinker   09/10/12 03:46 PM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate Homer   09/10/12 03:58 PM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate 450_366   10/10/12 07:31 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   10/10/12 08:27 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate 450_366   10/10/12 09:19 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate albertan   14/10/12 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate grandveneur   14/10/12 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   15/10/12 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate albertan   15/10/12 08:19 PM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   16/10/12 01:04 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate grandveneur   06/10/12 06:52 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate DarylS   06/10/12 07:14 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate grandveneur   06/10/12 08:00 AM
. * * Re: Powder Temperature debate Rule303   06/10/12 08:37 AM

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