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DarylS
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Re: 3006 or 45/70
18/09/12 03:19 AM

Earlier in this thread, we discussed all of this.

Since none of us has as you ask, "mapped out the real limitations of this gun", most shooters will adhere to the maker's maximum notes, ie: 32,000psi (pezio) CIP, which is 4,000PSI higher than SAAMI recommendations which are suggestions, not law. In Europe, CIP listings are law as I understand the situation.

The current standards are CIP 32,000PSI and SAAMI 28,000PSI.
In CUP - ie; copper crusher units of pressure, the CIP is listed as 29,000 CIP and SAAMI as 28,000 CUP, which is identical to SAAMI's PSI numbers.

Marlin says their guns are OK to 43,000. Hornady loads them thusly for the Marlins - Marlins have been tested by them, to 70,000psi with extraction normal, no adverse pressure signs. THAT is NOT suggested loading data. Never exceed a manual's load for any given rifle. I though it interesting they found it necessary or even a good idea to mention this 'test'. Their premise was that current brass is as strong as any other modern brass, that is all, I'm sure, and that their rifles possess a degree of safety.

As far as over-reacting to someone's loads for the Baikals, lets not be too hasty unless we know what they are doing. Tom, as he stated, plans to keep his loads at or below 28,000psi, even though Baikals are listed to 32,000psi. If he went to that level, he'd easily beat 2,000fps with 400's, but that will not be much fun for him in this relatively light rifle. A Hornady RN at 350gr. at 1,600fps to 1,800fps will be more than enough for his 'game'.

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Daryl

"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

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3006 or 45/70	TomN	04/04/12 11:32 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	FATBOY404	04/04/12 01:12 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	guns68	04/04/12 01:46 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	tinker	04/04/12 02:29 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	mauserand9mm	04/04/12 05:11 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	guns68	05/04/12 07:03 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	05/04/12 08:32 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	guns68	06/04/12 12:07 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	06/04/12 12:59 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	ruffcountry	06/04/12 02:56 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	05/04/12 01:50 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	mauserand9mm	05/04/12 02:41 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	06/04/12 11:50 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	mauserand9mm	06/04/12 07:19 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	07/04/12 11:24 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	kamilaroi	08/04/12 03:52 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	gallatin	10/04/12 03:37 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	11/04/12 12:35 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	11/04/12 10:44 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	11/04/12 11:11 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	20/04/12 10:45 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	13/05/12 03:27 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	13/05/12 01:42 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	14/05/12 01:11 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	14/05/12 03:02 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	Fjold	14/05/12 09:44 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	14/05/12 01:16 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	18/05/12 01:22 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	26/05/12 06:01 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	26/05/12 07:25 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	26/05/12 10:38 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	26/05/12 11:46 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	27/05/12 02:22 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	Fjold	27/05/12 12:58 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	bwananelson	27/05/12 02:28 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	NitroX	27/05/12 07:53 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	28/05/12 12:36 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	Fjold	28/05/12 04:03 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	04/06/12 08:48 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	04/06/12 10:21 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	Bill_Cooley	04/06/12 12:36 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	04/06/12 01:23 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	01/07/12 10:39 AM
(was 3006 or 45/70 remSxS) ->-> C.U.P. VS P.S.I. Handloads	tinker	01/07/12 01:43 PM
Re: (was 3006 or 45/70 remSxS) ->-> C.U.P. VS P.S.I. Handloads	DarylS	02/07/12 06:43 AM
Re: (was 3006 or 45/70 remSxS) ->-> C.U.P. VS P.S.I. Handloads	ruffcountry	02/07/12 02:01 PM
Re: (was 3006 or 45/70 remSxS) ->-> C.U.P. VS P.S.I. Handloads	DarylS	03/07/12 02:47 AM
Re: (was 3006 or 45/70 remSxS) ->-> C.U.P. VS P.S.I. Handloads	TomN	03/07/12 12:43 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	13/05/12 03:22 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	20/04/12 12:53 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	20/04/12 01:49 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	21/04/12 01:11 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	20/04/12 11:37 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	pricedo	16/09/12 01:49 PM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	Michael	18/09/12 12:16 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	pricedo	18/09/12 02:41 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	18/09/12 03:19 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	tinker	18/09/12 03:35 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	17/09/12 01:53 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	08/04/12 05:50 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	AkMike	08/04/12 06:25 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	TomN	08/04/12 09:42 AM
Re: 3006 or 45/70	DarylS	05/04/12 01:38 AM

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