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Time to wake up & smell the coffee. The Baikal MP221 45-70 is nothing but a noise making toy; a living room conversation piece that looks a bit like a real double but ain't. Take a close look at the paper thin metal in the barrel walls near the muzzle . If you push that gun with suped-up factory ammo like Buffalo Bore or Garrett or with heavy hand loads you're likely to wind up wearing it. What do you expect for less than $1000?

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Interesting first post??

Now for all the doomsayers that predicted the explosion of a thousand Baikals when used with modern 45/70 loads.......has anyone actually SEEN one of these destroyed firearms?

Has anyone SEEN any major issue with any of these doubles that have now been on the market for a suitable time to have encountered a keen reloader or even a Garrett load??

Anyone..........

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The quote begs the obvious question.
There never seems to be a shortage of information from posters regarding favorite loads for any particular firearm.
I expect the same is true for the Baikal MP221 double rifle in 45-70.
Is there any data regarding loads that have been tested with the Baikal double?
The 45-70 has SAAMI specs that reflect the fact that there still many legacy firearms chambered in this caliber that generic factory ammo (not the suped-up specialty stuff like Buffalo Bore & Garrett) needs to work safely in.
We have all been hot rodding our Marlin 1895s for years but if you call the manufacturer & ask what ammo is safe to use in the 1895s they'll invariably say factory ammo loaded to SAAMI specs. It's a lawyer/civil liability thing & has nothing to do with the ability of the gun to handle above SAAMI loads.
The OFFICIAL manufacturer ammo recommendations for any given firearm will rarely exceed the SAAMI maximum working pressure specs.
That being said, has anybody mapped out the real limitations of this gun?
I've done a bid of internet "Googling" and some sources say the Baikal double is quite strong.
Does anybody have any empirical loading data for the Baikal MP221 in 45-70 that has worked safely in THEIR guns?

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