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Re: 1903 groove diameter
      27/07/12 11:50 PM

Years ago, copper units of pressure was used and many writers interchanged the words CUP and PSI when talking about pressure.
Today, pezio measuring systems give us actual pounds per square inch - thus, the numbers sound high.

Yes - many rounds today list seemingly high numbers, but when you compare those high PSI numbers with the CUP numbers on the same loads, you see the difference.

Here's a chart, showing SAAMI pezio PSI and CIP pezio PSI numbers, as well as the SAAMI and CIP 'crusher' #'s.

Note how some are listed as maximum pressure of 65,000 under the PSI row, and 54,000 under the CUP row, or 62,000 under the PSI and 50,000 under the CUP.

Note the .22 Hornet at the top of the link's list - 46,000CUP, but 53,000PSI!

Note also how some ctgs. on a particular case, ie: .30/06 case is listed so much lower than another round on the same case, ie; the .338/06 - or 35 Whelen vs, .270 Win, or .280- all on the same case, all with different maximums. There is no obvious reasoning, except perhaps WHEN the various rounds were run through testing and when they achieved the ballistics desired, they stopped.

Note the 8mm Rem Mag - CIP max of CIP 67,000PSI! That's the highest, I think, for a factory load.

Now, if your handloads are giving you higher speeds than factory ammo, I have to wonder what your loads actually are producing for pressure?

http://kwk.us/pressures.html

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Daryl


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* 1903 groove diameter clatrans 21/07/12 06:05 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter Kiwi_bloke   21/07/12 10:42 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   21/07/12 11:04 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter MikeRowe   21/07/12 01:05 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter Paul   21/07/12 05:45 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   22/07/12 01:41 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter clatrans   24/07/12 05:28 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter MikeRowe   25/07/12 03:14 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter clatrans   25/07/12 05:22 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   25/07/12 06:35 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter clatrans   25/07/12 07:05 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   25/07/12 10:56 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter Paul   25/07/12 01:48 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   25/07/12 11:49 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter Paul   27/07/12 10:16 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   27/07/12 11:50 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter Paul   28/07/12 01:57 PM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   29/07/12 02:08 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter Paul   29/07/12 11:24 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter clatrans   28/07/12 12:46 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter DarylS   28/07/12 09:32 AM
. * * Re: 1903 groove diameter malco   22/07/12 12:40 AM

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