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I find your mirth misplaced, Frank, - the .50/70 and .45/70 killed more buffalo when used with 70gr. black powder and loaded with 405gr., 450gr. and 500gr. lead bullets, than all the more powerful 'buffalo' rounds put together. I doubt the 45gr./405gr. "Carbine Load" was used much for buffalo, but probably when no other ammo was available.

Those who might think the round is too underpowered for buffalo, merely need to try it.

As to Cape Buffalo - perhaps one needs to try one of the 400gr. 'solid' bullets available and at this rifles maximum pressure load, achieve around 1,950fps, a full 200fps higher velocity than the load Brian Pierce used on two Cape bufflao - both killed with the same bullet from one shot - that just happened to be 4 shoulders - first the bull's then the cow's.

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Is this the story that went out by a guy promoting hard cast lead bullets. That he is the maker of?

If not, ignore the following.

But if it is the same story of the bullet maker and/or his promoter that went to Africa and then proceeded to shoot through the shoulders of two beasts .... there was a lot of ridicule of the story and IMO and a lot of other people, whether it ever happened. Also the usual charging beasts in the various "stories" promoting the hard cast lead bullets out of a .45/70 that was more effective "the slower the bullets velocity was". yeah probably, as they probably break up if pushed too fast.

If not the same stories well then ignore that.

But how irresponsible to shoot a buffalo with another straight behind it. Really really bad form. And nothing for the shooter to be bragging about at all.


Fjold,

Hope your rifle shoots well. It should be a fun gun if it does.

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John aka NitroX

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