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bigjedd
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Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??
27/09/11 07:11 PM

Ok I have a few views on this subject that I would like to share
1) This talk about arriving somewhere without your ammo to me is a mute point. It dosent matter what calibre you have usually the ammo would be secure in your suitcase so if the ammo goes missing so do your clothes. The rifle is usually carried in a gun case seperate from your suit case and that is more likely to go missing than the ammo although both happen.

2) On the weight issue these days with all the modern electric gadgetry and trichery stuff that hunters carry in their day packs adds up to more weight carried needlessly than the diference in weights of rifles. Also 1/2 pound of extra weight in a pair of hunting boots will do more to create a crook back and fatigue than carrying the 1/2 to 1 pound extra in a hunting rifle .

3) On the original question "416 ruger best 416 of all?" I would say no . But if you ask is it the best modern times creation in 416 calibre I would say yes. Being realistic about this we can say that the 416 rigby or weatherby will out shoot the 416 ruger every time with beefed up loads and we would be correct. However the 416 calibre was designed to be shot with a 400-410gr bullet at 2400fps. Arguing the rigby has worked well for over ex amount of years is flawed. Any of the 416's available will do what the rigby was designed to do and that is all they need to do nothing more nothing less. Once you start looking at pushing higher velocities to prove the rigby is better you then need to look at the bullet construction and performance at the higher velocities.

For what I want to hunt the Ruger short barrel and resultant performance figures work for me.
A couple of examples:

1)400gr Woodleigh bullets at 2376fps Woodleighs velocity range 1800 to 2200 impact velocity.
Any Animal needing this bullet weight would most likely be shot within 100yds. No need for more velocity

2)340gr Woodleigh bullet at 2655fps Woodleighs velocity range 1900 to 2400fps impact velocity.
On plains game out to 250 to 300yds this load will do everything on offer.

Don,t think I need much more than these 2 loads to hunt anything on the planet.

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416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	hoppdoc	04/04/08 06:00 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Reggie	18/08/11 11:54 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	poprivit	19/08/11 03:46 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	86thecat	27/08/11 12:40 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Rule303	28/08/11 07:57 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	HogPilot	23/09/11 03:55 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	458Win	24/09/11 03:30 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Ripp	27/09/11 11:36 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DarylS	24/09/11 04:12 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	HogPilot	24/09/11 09:38 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	458Win	24/09/11 02:16 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	9.3x57	27/09/11 11:59 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	458Win	17/10/11 11:06 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Rule303	21/10/11 12:30 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	450	31/10/11 09:00 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	450	19/03/12 05:44 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DarylS	20/03/12 03:02 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	poprivit	20/03/12 06:17 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Mike_Bailey	20/03/12 08:34 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DarylS	20/03/12 08:44 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	450	20/03/12 09:50 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Indybuster	23/05/12 12:28 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	HogPilot	24/09/11 06:03 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	bigjedd	27/09/11 07:11 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Ripp	27/09/11 11:40 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Yochanan	08/05/11 08:13 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	fourbore	08/05/11 12:52 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DUGABOY1	23/05/11 04:39 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Dresden	30/09/12 09:09 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	458Win	30/09/12 07:14 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DarylS	01/10/12 12:36 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Dresden	16/10/12 12:05 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Ben	23/05/11 07:21 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	ant458	26/05/11 11:46 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Yochanan	09/05/11 02:59 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Huvius	09/05/11 03:39 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	458Win	09/05/11 04:16 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Mike_Bailey	09/05/11 04:31 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	NitroX	09/05/11 09:10 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	JabaliHunter	09/05/11 06:21 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	fourbore	09/05/11 06:52 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	458Win	09/05/11 07:08 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Freeloader123	28/05/11 06:19 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	jcs271	16/06/11 07:14 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	fourbore	16/06/11 08:19 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Mike_Bailey	16/06/11 09:27 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DarylS	17/06/11 01:28 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	CommandCar	17/06/11 08:31 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	fourbore	09/05/11 08:11 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	portdivers	09/05/11 01:05 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	allenday	05/04/08 01:07 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Ripp	04/04/08 10:56 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	chuck375	04/04/08 02:47 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	hoppdoc	04/04/08 03:24 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	dnovo	04/04/08 10:26 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	chuck375	05/04/08 12:15 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	dnovo	05/04/08 08:40 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	Schamankungulo	05/04/08 11:51 AM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	dnovo	05/04/08 08:09 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	hoppdoc	05/04/08 08:47 PM
Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??	DarylS	05/04/08 12:38 AM

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