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Re: Sabatti Double Rifles, Brickbats & Bouquets
      17/06/11 06:20 AM

Chapuisarmes and Ron Villa,

Chapuisarmes, I agree 100% with what you had to say, Cabelas and Sabatti are, indeed, aware of the customer dissatisfaction with the "fine tune regulation" muzzle crown rifling grinding process, as for one, I personally told Cabelas main office in Nebraska, and told Sabatti too. I know others too, who have done the same thing. Also, I told them that if the "problem" was not corrected with future rifles, that I predicted that they would be losing a considerable number of potential customer purchases. If Cabelas and Sabatti wish to be successful in this venture, they know what they will have to do for future increased sales, and I am hoping that they do it. I am aware that Cabelas has indicated a willingness to have repairs done by Sabatti in Italy, but am suspicious of this, as I think that some of these so-called repairs have been done, instead, by EAA, the U.S. Sabatti importer in Florida, supplier for Cabelas, an importer that I personally know has one or more "gunsmiths" working on their staff, and an importer that has a horrible reputation for their uncaring support, etc. If this is the case, EAA is doing nothing but harming the reputation of the builders, Sabatti; not giving Sabatti a fair chance to correct the problem that they started, due to manufacturing shortcuts. I am aware of only two Sabatti big bore double rifles that were sent back for repairs so far, and neither of these two were repaired well, properly, according to the rifle owners. The original barrels were simply cut back to eliminate the crown ground out sections, and they were not re-regulated, or it seemed that was the case, according to the rifle owners. I seriously doubt if they were sent back to Italy, and if I were involved in those transactions, I would have requested proof of their being sent to Italy. Instead, I think the work was done by EAA, as such "work" would be typical for EAA, based on my experience (non Sabatti experience) with them.

Ron Villa,
Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it, and agree with what you had to say too. Some people, indeed, go out of their way to discredit Sabatti double rifles for numerous reasons. I know at least two such individuals who do so, because they have a vested interest in keeping the market on double rifle prices in general, as high as possible, because they deal in the rifles, and less expensive double rifles being manufactured frighten them, due to their potential loss of profit. Some others have a strong dislike for anything, double rifle or otherwise, that come from France and/or from Italy. After I wrote some positive comments about Sabatti some time back, I was attacked verbally, called names, etc. by one individual, simply because he makes double rifles right here in America, and he doesn't like hearing such positive comments about "those foreign made double rifles. Personally, I don't have time for such petty activities, and I don't really care where a double rifle was made, if it has faults I have seen or experienced, I will say so, and same if it has positive traits that I admire. It is very easy to understand and appreciate why the very best over/under double shotguns, worldwide, are now made in Italy. The O/U actions used on the modern best quality Boss English shotguns are made in Italy!

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