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Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all??
      23/05/11 04:39 AM

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You know this kind of practical talk and classical bent would get you all banned over on the AR forum. Well, that and criticism of muzzle brakes and rebated rims. I expressed this same view on the 375/416 Ruger and you would think I spat on the pope. And GD, here we have 13 posts in a row all saying the same thing.

There is a guy over there who is going to run an experiment to 'prove' the 375 Ruger is BETTER than the 375H&H. Not equall in a short ctg, but significantly better. The great efficiency of the sharper shoulder. When I suggest there might be some feeding advantage to the long tapered 375H&H that offset any marginal efficiency of the new Ruger -- oh my good, all hell broke loose again.

There has also been a few reports of feeding and extraction problems with some of the 375 Rugers. Nothing ever sorted out clearly. I suspect a combination of Superformance loading and new gun bugs by Ruger. One guy claimed he got two lemons in a row! He sounded credible to me, but was clearly not believed by a few of the more outspoken AR members. Maybe just a few lemons.




I know what you mean about the donnibrooks fostered by anything new on the rifle market, but it has no more to do with AR than any other "BIG BORE" forum on any web-site! There will always be those who simply think anything new has to be an improvement, while there will be thos who are prone to the tried and true older cartridges cannot be improved on, or if it can the gain is somehow not worth the trouble.

In my experience the big bore forums are the place where you will find most of these head to head confontations. This is because the big bore forums are where most of the kids think of a 30-06 to be a big bore, and anything bigger is ultra big bore. Pair this with a web-site where the most frequinted forums are double rifles, or the hunting of African game, and you will have two very different opinions about what is a big bore, and what is simply something designed to sell magazines, and/or new rifles. This website being based in OZ, geared to hunting the north end's water buffalo and feral cattle, or one like AR that is mostly in the Africa mood, there will be those with lots of real experience with all types of rifles, and cartridges, but both will have youngsters who only think they know it all, and are so young they take great exception to a different opinion that doesn't agree with theirs.

I don't think you will find a web-site anyplace where this is not the case, including NE and AR! There are simply people on the internet that want nothing more than to find someone to put down, to make their take on a subject look better. Then there are those who actually know what they are talking about but want nothing more than to use that knowledge like a club to batter others over the head instead of teaching. This last example is the one that does the most damage IMO, and this type is on every web-site on the internet, regardless of the subject at hand!


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* 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all?? hoppdoc 04/04/08 06:00 AM
. * * Re: 416 Ruger, Best 416 of all?? Reggie   18/08/11 11:54 AM
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