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Whether or not I have loaded for DR's and their ctgs. really has nothing to do with this thread or the credibiltiy of the statements made.

I'll answer your question though - Yes I have loaded Nitro Express ammo for DR's, unlike many people who've owned the rifles for many years. No, I've never owned one.

Seems to me, many people own them and don't load for them- know nothing about such a venture - all voodoo to them. How many back in 1900 loaded their own ammo - NONE!, I don't own but I load - what's the point on this? There is none really - moot is the word for this - no credibiltiy to the point really, merely an attempt at bullying or something - I'm too old to bully - or something?

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At the start of this thread, you or someone else jumped on me for saying the .416/500 was a low pressure round - which wrongly grew into a heated discussion on loading, pressures, etc. Not sure how that happened or why it did, but it did, unfortunately. It is indeed a low pressure round compared to modern ie: post 1900 bolt actioned rounds. What's the problem? This is common knowledge. You then stated there were no high pressure rounds chambered in DR's - oops - you forgot about the .375H&H and .458WM - so what - we all make mistakes - memories with old age? - it happens.

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The 416/500 is a 'modern, low pressure round of Nitro Express design. It was designed and is chambered in modern double rifles - it didn't become popular and is only chambered in one or perhaps 2 makes of DR's - what's the problem?

There are many modern bolt actioned rounds that never became popular - were only chamberd in one or 2 makes of rifles and never 'caught on'. They were good rounds that didn't make it. Oh well. If someone wants something badly enough, they can have it - the wonders of money - that's all it takes.

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Edited to correct some mistakes mostly spelling - it happens & I probably missed some - oh well.

Oh yeah - why did I say they were obsolete? - not all are - BUT - how many or which ctgs. are not being loaded in modern made rifles DR's or whatever?

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How much ammo is being sold for a .600 Nitro, .577 Nitro, .500/416 Nitro? The current 'laws' of what is declared obsolete or popular, relate almost entirely to the amount of ammo sold for a given round and how many new rifles today are being built for and chambered for those rounds. NUMBERS declare what is obsolete in today's society.

Whether a round is declared obsolete or not matters very little - if you have something you like and you load for it, then for you it isn't obsolete, is it.

Whether a ctg. is obsolete or not, as I noted, has nothing to do with it's capabilities or accemptance by an aging population of shooters - it has to do with #'s only. Don't fret the little stuff. It doesn't matter and it grows ulcers.

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The above has nothing to do with me! You are correct that many take numbers sold to declare something obsolete, but in today’s market where double rifles are concerned as long as components are readily available a cartridge is NOT obsolete. There are many however that are obsolete, that are still being shot, and hunted with every day. They are obsolete because the only way to shoot them is to MAKE CASES, and sometimes BULLETS for them because no factory components are available.

If I personally upset you then I apologize, I certainly did not mean to! I was simply clarifying some points that others seem to have missed.

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