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Re: Is the 500/416 dead?
      12/04/11 02:04 AM

Whether or not I have loaded for DR's and their ctgs. really has nothing to do with this thread or the credibiltiy of the statements made.

I'll answer your question though - Yes I have loaded Nitro Express ammo for DR's, unlike many people who've owned the rifles for many years. No, I've never owned one.

Seems to me, many people own them and don't load for them- know nothing about such a venture - all voodoo to them.

How many back in 1900 loaded their own ammo - NONE!, I don't own but I load - what's the point on this? There is none really - moot is the word for this - no credibiltiy to the point really, merely an attempt at bullying or something - I'm too old to bully - or something?

At the start of this thread, you or someone else jumped on me for saying the .416/500 was a low pressure round - which wrongly grew into a heated discussion on loading, pressures, etc. Not sure how that happened or why it did, but it did, unfortunately.

It is indeed a low pressure round compared to modern ie: post 1900 bolt actioned rounds. What's the problem? This is common knowledge. You then stated there were no high pressure rounds chambered in DR's - oops - you forgot about the .375H&H and .458WM - so what - we all make mistakes - memories with old age? - it happens.

The .416/500 is a 'modern, low pressure round of Nitro Express design. It was designed and is chambered in modern double rifles - it didn't become popular and is only chambered in one or perhaps 2 makes of DR's - what's the problem?

There are many modern bolt actioned rounds that never became popular - were only chamberd in one or 2 makes of rifles and never 'caught on'. They were good rounds that didn't make it. Oh well. If someone wants something badly enough, they can have it - the wonders of money - that's all it takes.

Need more coffee.

Edited to correct some mistakes mostly spelling - it happens & I probably missed some - oh well.

Oh yeah - why did I say they were obsolete? - not all are - BUT - how many or which ctgs. are not being loaded in modern made rifles DR's or whatever?

How much ammo is being sold for a .600 Nitro, .577 Nitro, .500/416 Nitro? The current 'laws' of what is declared obsolete or popular, relate almost entirely to the amount of ammo sold for a given round and how many new rifles today are being built for and chambered for those rounds. NUMBERS declare what is obsolete in today's society.

Whether a round is declared obsolete or not matters very little - if you have something you like and you load for it, then for you it isn't obsolete, is it.

Whether a ctg. is obsolete or not, as I noted, has nothing to do with it's capabilities or accemptance by an aging population of shooters - it has to do with #'s only. Don't fret the little stuff. It doesn't matter and it grows ulcers.

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Daryl


"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

Edited by Daryl_S (12/04/11 02:40 AM)

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* Is the 500/416 dead? JusticeTrimble 03/04/11 09:31 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   03/04/11 09:32 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? mickey   03/04/11 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? AkMike   03/04/11 10:56 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   03/04/11 10:59 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? AkMike   03/04/11 12:00 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? NitroXAdministrator   03/04/11 08:50 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? DarylS   03/04/11 10:31 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   04/04/11 07:31 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? DarylS   05/04/11 12:06 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   05/04/11 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? DarylS   10/04/11 10:23 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   13/04/11 01:20 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? DUGABOY1   12/04/11 12:31 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? DarylS   12/04/11 02:04 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? DUGABOY1   12/04/11 08:10 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ron_Vella   12/04/11 11:10 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? bonanza   13/04/11 02:54 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   13/04/11 07:32 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ron_Vella   13/04/11 10:36 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   13/04/11 10:49 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   13/04/11 10:41 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ripp   13/04/11 10:50 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   13/04/11 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ripp   13/04/11 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   13/04/11 11:44 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ron_Vella   13/04/11 11:11 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? bonanza   13/04/11 11:13 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? HendrikNZ   14/04/11 06:49 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   14/04/11 07:28 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ron_Vella   14/04/11 11:40 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? NitroXAdministrator   14/04/11 05:36 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? bonanza   14/04/11 09:12 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ron_Vella   14/04/11 11:55 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? NitroXAdministrator   15/04/11 12:21 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   14/04/11 12:00 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Dr_Deer   26/04/11 07:16 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ripp   15/04/11 10:29 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   15/04/11 10:38 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? NitroXAdministrator   25/04/11 07:15 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? JabaliHunter   25/04/11 08:04 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Paul   14/04/11 12:27 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   14/04/11 12:35 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? AkMike   14/04/11 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Paul   14/04/11 04:47 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   14/04/11 04:50 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? bonanza   14/04/11 11:46 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500grains   14/04/11 07:23 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Ron_Vella   13/04/11 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   12/04/11 12:43 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   12/04/11 07:52 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? NitroXAdministrator   12/04/11 03:13 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? xausa   12/04/11 07:14 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? NitroXAdministrator   11/04/11 07:47 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 4seventy   11/04/11 07:43 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Rolf   10/04/11 06:03 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? Dr_Deer   04/04/11 05:50 PM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? mickey   03/04/11 10:53 AM
. * * Re: Is the 500/416 dead? 500Nitro   03/04/11 10:58 AM

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