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4seventy
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Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?
27/07/04 07:08 AM

I have seen on video, Cape buffalo bulls shot with both 470 and 500 NE where the bullet goes under the brain and has had zero or very little effect toward stopping the animal, despite the large bullet diameter, and big bullet weight and energy.

When I select a rifle to back clients up on Water buff or scrub bull one of my prioritys is to choose an ADEQUATE caliber/cartridge.
Another is to use the most suitable bullet.
IMO 9.3/74 loaded with the right bullets is adequate for this job. Not ideal, but adequate.
Next is to choose a rifle that I KNOW is totally reliable.
But probabally the most important thing is that the rifle must fit me perfectly and I must be familiar with it and shoot it well.

When things get close and nasty I'd rather put a 320gn Woodleigh Solid from a 9.3 double into the bulls brain and maybe have a second chance with my second barrel if I missed the brain with the first, than to put a 500 grain bullet from a 458 a couple of inches low/high or anywhere else and have no second chance!

Selecting a tool to stop a charging bull is very different to selecting a suitable cartridge for general hunting of the same animal IMO.
Anyone who thinks that in a tight situation they can substitute bullet weight, diameter, foot pounds energy and cartridge reputation for good bullet placement, is heading in the wrong direction IMO.

Edited by 4seventy (27/07/04 07:20 AM)

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Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Urcousinvinny	08/07/04 12:16 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	DUGABOY1	15/07/04 06:59 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Ingwe	15/07/04 08:35 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	15/07/04 11:45 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Ingwe	15/07/04 01:29 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	15/07/04 02:22 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	NE450No2	17/07/04 02:05 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	NitroX	22/07/04 10:54 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	23/07/04 08:59 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	NitroX	23/07/04 10:07 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	24/07/04 11:43 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	atkinson6	27/07/04 05:26 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	27/07/04 07:08 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	27/07/04 02:12 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	29/07/04 08:24 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Ingwe	29/07/04 12:20 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	8x56mn	03/08/04 12:21 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	29/07/04 09:32 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Ingwe	30/07/04 07:25 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	bonanza	02/08/04 10:53 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	bonanza	31/07/04 01:13 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	31/07/04 07:29 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	bonanza	02/08/04 10:52 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	03/08/04 08:38 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	ALAN_MCKENZIE	03/08/04 12:59 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	bonanza	03/08/04 01:12 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	ALAN_MCKENZIE	04/08/04 12:56 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	jgttechjunkie	04/08/04 03:17 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	03/08/04 12:41 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	bonanza	03/08/04 10:44 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	04/08/04 07:59 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	450Dakota	27/07/04 04:07 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	ALAN_MCKENZIE	28/07/04 10:41 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	15/07/04 10:32 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	10/07/04 03:56 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	4seventy	13/07/04 09:06 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Ingwe	11/07/04 04:44 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	11/07/04 10:12 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	mickey	12/07/04 05:00 AM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Will	12/07/04 03:20 PM
Re: Dbl 9.3x74R or Bolt 458 for DG in close charge?	Ingwe	12/07/04 04:20 AM

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