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Re: Proof... once again
      28/10/10 08:33 AM

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The photograph above, IMO, is only to demonstrate the breech force/pressure of a factory loaded cartridge ie. the Kynoch ammo in the picture.
The copper crusher has no correlation at all to the proof of a finished rifle other than establishing a baseline pressure for a specific factory loaded cartridge. I guess what I am saying is that it is for testing ammunition not proving a firearm.





The above quote is absolutely true.

This is what gun proof is supposed to achieve and how it should be done.....

>>>involve the firing through the barrel of a considerably heavier load than is customary in the shooting field, thereby setting up pressure and stress on barrel and action much in excess of the pressure generated by standard load cartridges. Such pressure should, and is intended to, disclose weakness in guns, whether new or used, for it is preferable that weakness be found at a Proof House rather than in the field, where personal injury may result.<<<

You can throw oil on a (standard pressure) cartridge case all day and all night, and it will never change the pressure of that cartridge. All that the "oiling" achieves is to reduce the grip of the brass case against the chamber wall.
Therefore the barrel and chamber is not being subjected to any more pressure than with a dry case, and this means that the barrel and chamber has not been subjected to any "proofing" whatsoever.

Also, the (standard pressure) "oiled" case, with it's reduced grip against the chamber wall, will not put any more stress on the breeching than what a (standard pressure) case head separation will produce.

The proofing done in the manner in which Bramble's gun was done, does nothing as far as testing the gun "above" whatever pressure Bramble's hunting load produced.

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* Proof... once again oupa 27/10/10 09:50 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again Birdhunter50   29/10/10 11:41 PM
. * * Re: Proof... once again Mike_Bailey   30/10/10 12:51 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again DarylS   30/10/10 01:35 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again GroovyMike   30/10/10 02:10 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again 450_366   30/10/10 03:04 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again oupa   30/10/10 04:39 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again tinker   26/12/10 06:48 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again DarylS   30/10/10 06:35 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again GroovyMike   30/10/10 07:10 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again Brithunter   14/12/10 10:33 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again DarylS   26/12/10 05:47 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again oupa   25/12/10 03:12 PM
. * * Re: Proof... once again 4seventy   27/10/10 03:41 PM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kamilaroi   27/10/10 06:58 PM
. * * Re: Proof... once again oupa   28/10/10 03:26 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again DarylS   28/10/10 03:57 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kuduae   28/10/10 06:13 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kuduae   28/10/10 06:49 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again Huvius   28/10/10 07:36 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again 4seventy   28/10/10 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kuduae   29/10/10 07:46 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again 4seventy   29/10/10 08:26 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again 4seventy   29/10/10 08:45 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again DarylS   29/10/10 10:21 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kuduae   28/10/10 08:10 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again 4seventy   28/10/10 12:58 PM
. * * Re: Proof... once again oupa   29/10/10 03:31 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kuduae   29/10/10 07:39 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again DarylS   29/10/10 03:30 AM
. * * Re: Proof... once again kuduae   28/10/10 08:43 AM

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