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Gatsby,

I think you are missing my point, if you are saying the LT must be launched from a paradox/explora choked gun, then fine. BUT if you are saying the LT projectile can be launched with a 1:30"ish twist and hit at 300 yards with enough retained velocity and energy to effectively kill game, I'm sorry, but just not with you. Again, here is my reasoning, 1. game laws promote bore slug hunting. 2. we have scopes now, not just with crosshairs, but all kinds of deluxe ballistic calculators and even built in rangefinders. 3. any ammunition mfg. who comes up with a 300 yrd accurate slug gets all the business-period!

Are the manufacturers that dumb? I know they promote stupid products all the time, but are they too stupid to explore something that has been around for 105 years? Maybe, but how much $$ are you willing to wager on that?

There are two things I can think of that would reassure me that the LT's are the real deal.
1. give me some to test.
2. tell me they cost 8-10X more to make than say a brenneke.

Yes my Evans works at 100yrds, but I pull out my scoped Browning BPS with Hastings rifled bbl every year, fire a single Brenneke gold thru the "X" at 100 yrds, and go hunting. In this case, the modern can duplicate (better) the antique...

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Original performance claimed by Westley Richards IMO is highly suspect. I say this b/c with modern game laws, the slug gun is necessary in many regions. If the LT's viable at 2-300 yard it seems someone would be punching out something similar in the correct diameter to run thru the plethora of rifled slug guns out there today. I know of no-one claiming even 200 yard slugs for deer size game.

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I am surprised you have come to that conclusion since you now shoot your gun at 100yds with an aerodynamically inefficient slug. 200yds isn't that hard to believe, at all, over open sites and 1500fps. Handgun silhouette is shot to 200yds over open sites at similar velocities. 300 yds is certainly a challenge for both gun and shooter.
Why create such a projectile and system to launch it if there was no real performance improvement to be gained?
Holland certainly spent a lot of time and effort after 1904 to try and equal the Westley rifled choke systems.

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I believe the Westley ( and other) literature from the time period. Just a couple of years back many thought the velocities advertised for the Super Magnum were inflated. We have found a way to reproduce them. I don't have a bc for the LT capped bullet but running several models on my ballistic program would indicate the energy at 300yds to be between 800 to 1100ftlbs (as much or more than a .44mag at 50yds). What .735 slug weighing 730gr with a pointed tip traveling at 1500fps is made today? The LT capped bullet extended the range of the paradox style gun which seemed to be limited from 100 to 150yds. Westley stated the ultimate limit for their guns and ammunition was 300yds, puffing or fact?
I would just about guarantee the capped bullets to cost many more times than a slug.
As to testing; I do have a small collection of LT bullets and also 2 pristine Westley Super Mags.
If you are willing to reimburse me the cost of the LT's, I'll send some downrange.
If we buy into your comparison between the Evans and the BPS then no one should ever buy a double rifle as a scoped bolt gun will always be more accurate.

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