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Re: Forgotten and lesser known best gun makers
      08/07/04 05:19 AM

dear sir

respect do not depand on age but i do believe that you are more than one year older than me and this is enough.
Teschner Collath is one of my favorite's, I know only 4 shotgun cartridge systems and most ones of us only know 1. the first shotgun cartridge was the french pinfire Lefaucheux cartridge with the Lefaucheux breech action. this is the mother of all breech actions we have. the lancester center fire shotgun cartridge, the same we use today was derived from this, the case is very similar , have only a thicker rim. In germany exist 2 different shotgun cartridge family's, booth starting in the 1860 year's before the lanchester cartridge come on the market. the first was the "von Dreyse" cartridge measured in prussian inch(a prussian inch have 26.4mm, a british inch have 25,4mm). this was a needle fire cartridge, paper hull with a solid base the "Schlußspiegel" but the oldest ones have only a paper hull like the Dreyse military rifle cartridge. cartridges exist from 59" to 74" but 70" similar to 16 bore is the most common. Teschner Collath have another shotgun cartridge system and the numbers 0-8 do not have any conection with the Lancester shotgun bore numbers, it was only for name the cartridge. you find most times a lanchester cartridge fits the teschner collath gun but the cartridge may split when firing because this chambers made for a cartridge with a conical base.
You may not see Dreyse or Collath guns outside of germany or the german influenced east europe and when india was the biggest hunting weapon market arround 1900 we look more to gunmaker from Suhl like Meffert or Schueler and the Mauser factory.

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