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Re: Killing vs. Stopping.
      30/06/10 11:58 PM

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Ripp,

I would question that conclusion. Not from experience with shooting an elephant with a .577 shooting bullets at 1800 fps, but from a gut feel.

Also the 2300 fps, most, if not all, of the big NE cartridges, shoot at the muzzle slower than this, usually around 2000 fps to 2100 fps, and have always seemed pretty effective to me.

A lot of magazine articles always seem to me to have a lot of "writer's licence" inserted in them.

JMO.




John,
The article I was referring to was written by Boddington--think it is in either Shooting Times or Sports Afield-current edition..also the elephant hunts described in the article were shown on Tracks Across Africa--you could see the bullets hit the head--actually looked like a good hit, but no effect other than the bull turned to leave but was put down with multiple follow up shots..

As to the 2300 fps..when I was last in Zim in '08--had Len (PH) from Chifuti, who had done quite a bit of hunting in Botswana, tell me the bulls there were noticeably larger than in some other areas..told me in his experience, the preferred fps to penetrate from ALL angles was the 2300 fps..Two other PH's sitting in camp agreed with that statement...I should have been more specific...

I have only shot one elephant in my life..can tell you using a Barnes solid at 2440 fps out of a custom bolt in .416 Rem it blew out of her head behind the opposite ear, hit a small tree, come out the other side and kept going..Obviously plenty of penetration...

Ripp

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* Killing vs. Stopping. bonanza 27/06/10 10:07 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   09/10/23 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   10/10/23 10:17 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. HeymSR20   19/10/23 09:58 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   19/10/23 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DarylS   20/10/23 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 07:11 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   20/10/23 08:18 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 08:28 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   23/10/23 08:47 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 08:46 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   23/10/23 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   23/10/23 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   24/10/23 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 09:02 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   23/10/23 04:06 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   23/10/23 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   23/10/23 08:21 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 08:09 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ndumo   30/07/10 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. ozhunter   31/07/10 02:39 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. chuck375   24/10/23 09:01 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   24/10/23 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   24/10/23 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. chuck375   28/10/23 01:29 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   28/10/23 02:27 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   28/10/23 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   28/10/23 06:00 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   29/10/23 11:42 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   28/10/23 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. chuck375   29/10/23 03:25 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DarylS   29/10/23 04:33 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   24/10/23 08:25 PM
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. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   24/10/23 08:14 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ben   31/07/10 07:50 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Paul   03/08/10 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. 93mouse   03/08/10 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   29/06/10 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. xausa   29/06/10 01:12 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. *DELETED* grandveneur   29/06/10 01:24 AM
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. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. poprivit   29/06/10 09:08 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. mauserand9mm   29/06/10 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ben   30/06/10 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ripp   30/06/10 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   30/06/10 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ripp   30/06/10 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. 93mouse   01/07/10 12:23 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. gwh   21/07/10 08:48 PM
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. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   29/06/10 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   29/06/10 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. ozhunter   27/06/10 11:54 PM
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