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Wes350
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Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters??
      26/06/10 07:14 AM

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I think the answers are really in your question:

So what's the difference between 1911's and Mauser actions? You can buy a Springfield/Ruger, and get a very servicable arm for a fair market price. Or you can dump some big $ in and get more features at the Ed Brown/Empire Rifles end of the spectrum.




Like I said, I don't count the brown/win/ruger/cz's as Mausers, because they are not. You got the $600 Zastava (which cheaps out on certain aspects) and then straight into 5K+ custom land for a complete rifle. There's nothing factory in the mid range.

A 1911 is a 1911. Nobody tries to call a SIG 220 or H&k USP a 1911. Nor any other gun made using operating principles derived from John Browings 1911. Just like people don't call a Beretta 92 a Walther P38. I feel same rule holds true for the Mauser 98.


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The supply of ex-military surplus M98 actions has dried up by now, look at the prices paid nowadays by the military arms collectors/shooters for a decent K98. The cost today to make a decent M98 action alone is more than Euro 2000.-. It does not matter much if you make a Kurz, Standard or Magnum length action from scratch. Add a decent barrel, stock and sights, you simply end up in the 3k range. Voere M98 rifles, if still available, were made on reworked surplus actions. The other year Voere started advertizing a "truly modern wonder action" of their own design, nothing like a M98 anymore.




I think that the avaliability of cheap 98 actions is what kept the 98 design from quality mass production for so long.

Once these "cheap" actions started running out, I don't think that anyone wanted to invest in making an action that required so many steps. Especially since the vast majority of consumers don't care about the differences. They only care about price. And so you begin to see the rise of the pushfeed action in the middle of the last century.

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post war mauser quality is the 3000$+ custum gun quality of today
thats all



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Lancaster is correct, however the figures are a little off. It is not possible to build a quality genuine M98 action rifle for $ 3000.00 let alone make a profit.

I think what is often overlooked is that in 1956 a .275 base grade M98 Rigby was £ 150.00.

In todays money that represents more than £ 7000.00
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I must quibble with your example. A Rigby of any era is at least a semi-custom gun, and commanded some type of premium.

I think it would be a more apples to apples comparison if someone knows what a Mauser Model A cost in the pre-war era compared to other factory rifles of the same period.


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* Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? Wes350 26/06/10 03:42 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? taw1126   26/06/10 05:12 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? lancaster   26/06/10 04:55 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? HuntingSchneider   26/06/10 05:04 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? kuduae   26/06/10 05:23 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? DarylS   26/06/10 06:56 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? Bramble   26/06/10 06:56 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? Wes350   26/06/10 07:14 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? lancaster   26/06/10 01:16 PM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? Homer   27/06/10 07:14 PM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? CWJ1898   28/06/10 10:22 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? GoneShootin   15/08/10 05:38 PM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? RigbyUser   17/10/10 01:16 AM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? 458Win   06/11/10 01:26 PM
. * * Re: Where are the Quality 98 Sporters?? NitroXAdministrator   07/11/10 01:38 AM

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