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I think what you say is evident by looking at early 450-400's of either sort (3' and 3 1/4").

Early guns were big, heavy affairs that could easily have had 470 and 500 Nitro barrels fitted but they seemed to become slimmer as time went on.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this ?

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I saw a vintage English 450-400 which was built on an 8 gauge frame. The gun was a monster at 13 pounds or so, but the workmanship was great. At this point I do not recall the maker. There was so much steel in that gun that it would have been difficult to blow up no matter what powder was used.

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