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404bearslayer
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Re: back up pistol for bears
16/02/10 05:42 AM

I have shot a fairly decent brown bear last year (8.5 feet), and can tell you that you should never rely on body shots to stop a bear, forget the 'light rifle', shoot at the head with a semi-auto in 10mm AUTO, you simply have more ammo and speed to make up for misses. I my case, I pumped 4 shots from my .404 Jeffrey into the bear's chest cavity at distances from 10 to 60 yards. Those were very stiff handloads, by the way, similar to full-house .416 Rigby loads. Less effective then I had expected ... :

First hit made him rise to his full 8.5 ft, with a big roar ... then he came at me. Only the second shot at 10 yards distance made him run away, as he clearly did not like what he was being served. I hit him a third and forth time at about 60 yards when he tried to pass my position sideways. At the position of the forth shot, I later found his lungs all over the place - still didn't impress him, he kept running for another 70 yards until he dropped (and was still not dead!!). The bear had softball size exit holes from my African caliber, and all 4 shots hit the chest cavity, yet it was a close call. There are bears that will fall fast, but on occasion, they can prove very tough. I own a .470 NE now, and spend most practice time with off-hand head-shots at 50 yards

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Hence, as a backup, the handgun for the headshot is the only option, whereby I would actually prefer pepper spray: Some game department has done stats on the effectiveness of guns versus pepper spray in stopping charges: The pepper spray won by 75 % versus 30 % for the guns (in turning a charge).

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back up pistol for bears	Scott	01/11/09 02:58 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	01/11/09 04:40 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Altamaha	01/11/09 07:56 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	01/11/09 08:20 AM
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Re: back up pistol for bears	poprivit	02/11/09 05:24 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	02/11/09 05:42 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	02/11/09 07:36 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	15/02/10 10:40 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	15/02/10 11:44 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Tatume	15/02/10 10:10 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Homer	15/02/10 08:33 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	FRJ	05/05/12 02:40 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	WesF	11/05/10 03:21 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DUGABOY1	24/06/11 04:40 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	24/06/11 07:39 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	25/06/11 12:09 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	25/06/11 02:00 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	25/06/11 02:43 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	PHMadness	25/06/11 06:43 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	25/06/11 07:32 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	aromakr	09/12/11 11:16 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	09/12/11 12:24 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Sarg	09/12/11 04:28 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	10/12/11 05:30 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	ruffcountry	09/05/12 11:28 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	10/05/12 12:46 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	01/10/14 10:36 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	02/10/14 02:13 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	02/10/14 05:09 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	02/10/14 06:17 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	dracb	03/10/14 09:06 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	04/10/14 12:09 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	04/10/14 01:53 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	02/10/14 12:47 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	02/10/14 02:28 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	03/10/14 02:01 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	NitroX	30/05/12 02:41 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	NitroX	30/05/12 02:42 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Rule303	30/05/12 11:32 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	NitroX	30/05/12 10:25 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	30/05/12 11:56 PM
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Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	31/05/12 12:21 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	NitroX	01/06/12 01:48 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	aromakr	02/06/12 12:40 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	30/09/14 10:56 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	01/10/14 07:48 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	01/10/14 07:54 AM
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Re: back up pistol for bears	controlled_feed	09/12/11 10:12 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Paul	16/02/10 10:03 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	19/02/10 12:35 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Paul	20/02/10 12:39 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	20/02/10 01:31 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	17/02/10 01:10 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	17/02/10 02:12 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	17/02/10 02:39 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	18/02/10 01:09 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Tatume	18/02/10 11:16 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	17/02/10 02:55 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	18/02/10 01:05 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	450_366	17/02/10 06:46 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	500grains	17/02/10 01:47 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Mike_Bailey	17/02/10 02:15 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	17/02/10 02:25 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	17/02/10 02:18 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	17/02/10 02:40 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	17/02/10 02:47 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	450_366	17/02/10 03:53 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	17/02/10 07:27 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	17/02/10 11:44 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	17/02/10 03:22 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	tinker	17/02/10 03:48 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	17/02/10 02:14 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Grenadier	16/02/10 03:18 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	16/02/10 05:42 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Ripp	16/02/10 06:16 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Dphariss	21/02/10 05:03 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	404bearslayer	16/02/10 06:54 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Mike_Bailey	16/02/10 08:49 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	16/02/10 01:37 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Homer	14/02/10 06:52 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	NitroX	15/02/10 03:28 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	lancaster	14/02/10 07:31 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Kalunga	14/02/10 09:10 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	15/02/10 12:38 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	15/02/10 03:02 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	15/02/10 03:17 AM
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Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	15/02/10 06:57 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Grenadier	15/02/10 08:01 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	15/02/10 09:10 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Tatume	15/02/10 07:17 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	15/02/10 07:44 AM
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Re: back up pistol for bears	Dphariss	21/02/10 04:45 PM
Re: back up pistol for bears	9.3x57	22/02/10 01:30 AM
Re: back up pistol for bears	Der_Jaeger	22/02/10 02:57 AM
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Re: back up pistol for bears	DarylS	22/02/10 03:26 AM

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