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Re: Let's have some fun.
      13/10/09 10:47 AM

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I'm not sure I belong with a group that thinks it is 'FUN' to pick apart what someone has obviously had done at rather large expense and I believe careful thought because it does not meet your narrow criterion of what is 'good'.




If you think the above is what we've been doing, you haven't been reading the same string I have.

Here, you admit to what you don't know:

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I don't have extensive knowledge about the collector value of english double rifles or what was or was not absolutely proper for each model and make




...and that's EXACTLY what we've been discussing. What we're really talking about here is numbers. To get to the numbers, you've got to be able to see what needs to be corrected first (the intended exercise of this string). Then you subtract the cost of the necessary corrections from the expected market value once the gun is properly restored, then quantify and subtract the value of your own aggravation plus the time value of the money invested over probably two years waiting time, and that's the current market value of the piece.

Yes, of course the owner can choose to carry out whatever modifications he pleases - style, quality of work he's willing to pay for, etc. With these rifles however, the owner needs to be aware that some of those choices can have severe negative consequences with respect to market value. If he doesn't, then he doesn't understand the market and will probably eventually get a nasty surprise.

You don't seem to understand that taste really has nothing to do with this at all. It has nothing to do with what you or I like, or what we think is "good". This market is nothing like the American collector market for Winchesters, Colts, etc. It's actually quite forgiving. What the market thinks is "good" with respect to pre-war British double rifles is simple. Re-finishing, re-colour hardening, re-stocking, etc., don't reduce fair value much, as long as the work meets two criteria: it follows the style of the maker at the time it was built, and is executed to a standard of quality at least equal to that of the original maker. None of the after market work done on this Lang is in the same ZIP Code with that criteria. Honestly, it's one of the worst I've seen.

You've gotten your nose out of joint over a conversation you've never understood what was about.

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* Let's have some fun. 470evans 10/10/09 12:01 PM
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. * * Re: Let's have some fun. 400NitroExpress   11/10/09 11:20 AM
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. * * Re: Let's have some fun. 400NitroExpress   11/10/09 12:06 PM
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. * * Re: Let's have some fun. Omnivorous_Bob   11/10/09 11:32 AM
. * * Re: Let's have some fun. zimhunter   11/10/09 12:12 PM
. * * Re: Let's have some fun. DUGABOY1   13/10/09 11:45 AM
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. * * Re: Let's have some fun. 400NitroExpress   14/10/09 08:47 PM
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. * * Re: Let's have some fun. 400NitroExpress   12/10/09 01:48 PM
. * * Re: Let's have some fun. zimhunter   13/10/09 06:43 AM
. * * Re: Let's have some fun. 400NitroExpress   13/10/09 10:47 AM
. * * Re: Let's have some fun. bigdog   12/10/09 03:24 AM
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