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Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06
      11/10/09 06:48 AM

I need to ask you if the baikal has a 20000psi top stamped on them in the us or if you got it wrong, but here they are at 28000psi. If they are at 20000 in the us i would understand how they are so much worse then the ital. hammer gun, if not you got it wrong and you are making statements that doesent sum up.

And the 375HH as a dg chambering is tru, but isnt it the smallest one allowed in some countries?
That would hardly put it in the stopper catagory would it? But you are right the 45/70 in its original loads doesent even quilify to take moose here around, so anyone that buys one and gets a handfull of remington cartridges would be pritty undergunned for almost anything over a apache.

But i know that some people try to put the 45/70 as one hell of a cartrige in the 458WM category and its sure as hell is not, nowone here tryed to make it as one, but others in the us tryes hard. This i know is wrong, but i cant understand this fury over it being compared to the 30-06 or even the 375HH, surely a solid lead 400gr at some 2000-2100fps should be in that area at least, even if not as good as the 375 it should at least come close, shouldnt it?

As usuall, im not an expert, and im just wondering so please anyone educate me.

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