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Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06
10/10/09 03:05 PM

Duggaboy1;

No one here is equating the .45-70 with the .500 Nitro.

In fact, this thread has me chuckling as I am usually on the other side of it, arguing that the .45-70 is no .458 Win or Lott.

As for facts, neither is the .375 H&H Magnum, though it is one of my favorite calibers.

Bullets matter. Not all hollowpoints are the same.

The Lee HP is one design that acts nothing at all like the typical, frangible varmint slug. In fact, to the contrary. The Lee HP has very thick walls and overall acts like a Nosler Partition, the front expanding violently, leaving a square-nosed, 300 grain shank to penetrate very deeply, as deeply as a 300 grain Swift A-Frame shot from a .375 H&H Magnum as I've demonstrated in test after test.

I made statements about the .30-06, .375 and .45-70 and I stand by those statements. At no time have I or anyone else here made positive statements that imply the .45-70 is anything it isn't. I might add that others elsewhere have published numerous reports of performance critiques of heavy loads using the .45-70 on heavy game and such reports support my assertions and vice versa. In fact, lots of reports exist that include documentation, photos, etc that support my basic statements, so there is of course no logical reason why I would support your contrary assertions.

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Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	PBR	18/09/09 08:26 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	Sgt_Brown	19/09/09 01:05 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	tophet1	19/09/09 01:48 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	20/09/09 01:33 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	Sgt_Brown	24/09/09 11:50 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	25/09/09 12:25 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	25/09/09 12:19 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	25/09/09 12:32 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	25/09/09 02:13 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	Alberta	25/09/09 03:22 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	25/09/09 09:30 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	bonanza	25/09/09 11:34 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	25/09/09 12:36 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	doubleriflejack	26/09/09 04:21 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	PBR	26/09/09 05:39 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	26/09/09 09:39 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	27/09/09 03:09 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DUGABOY1	09/10/09 11:42 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	09/10/09 11:56 AM
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