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DarylS
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Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06
10/10/09 11:25 AM

I'm with you, Andreas - guess Pierce was hunting illegally when he shot 2 CAPE buffalo with a .45/70 Marlin, with one weak-kneed 400gr. factory solid (both buffalo = 4 shoulders) a load that can be dulicated with a Trapdoor Springfield at 22,000PSI.

I didn't know Dugaboy was as old as he says - but do know he is talking nonsense in much of his posting on this subject.

Just because the .375 is legal for some game in some regions the .45/70, he says, is not, doesn't mean anything to this thread - or any other thread. We are talking about ballistics here and a comparrison between the '06 and the .45/70, as laoded in the Baikal as well as hunting in North America and here, the .45/70, within the range MOST hunters should be restricting themselves to, if a better killer on big game than the .30/06 - there really is no comparrison.

It is interesting Frank C. Barnes said about the .45/70 - "Can be loaded to deliver very impressive knockdown on our heaviest species of big game" he didn't say that about the .30/06, nor the .375 - interesting.

Granted he was talking about loads for the Winchester M86 - Today, those ballistics are well within the relm of the weak actioned .45/70s.

Just because the round dates back to 1873, is no reason to continue using 1873 loads in it - especially when we have powders that render it on the same playing field with great, modern and some not so modern rounds, like the .375H&H.

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Daryl

"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

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Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	PBR	18/09/09 08:26 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	Sgt_Brown	19/09/09 01:05 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	tophet1	19/09/09 01:48 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	20/09/09 01:33 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	Sgt_Brown	24/09/09 11:50 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	25/09/09 12:25 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	25/09/09 12:19 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	25/09/09 12:32 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	25/09/09 02:13 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	Alberta	25/09/09 03:22 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	25/09/09 09:30 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	bonanza	25/09/09 11:34 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	25/09/09 12:36 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	doubleriflejack	26/09/09 04:21 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	PBR	26/09/09 05:39 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	9.3x57	26/09/09 09:39 PM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DarylS	27/09/09 03:09 AM
Re: Baikal 45-70 vs 30-06	DUGABOY1	09/10/09 11:42 AM
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