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eagle27
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Re: Tipping Etiquette?
21/08/09 05:43 PM

Loving it and I just must vent my spleen here.

Tophet your last post sums it up nicely and I am a buddy in arms with my kiwi collegue von gruff. While I have huge respect for our American and Canadian hunting friends and get a great kick out of their sharing their experiences and knowledge with us, the abomination of tipping that seems to have developed in their cultures and carried over to other countries (thankfully not Oz or NZ) is a blight that has done more damage than good.

Everyone deserves to be paid a proper wage for the work they do and I am the first to pay for the service I want. I'm willing to pay more for a better service as I am willing to pay more for a good rifle or any other equipment I buy. If the service or goods are poor I won't use or buy them again. Word of mouth and references will weed out the cowboys so you should easily be able to get and pay properly for the service or goods.
I get tired of hearing how the "lowly" workers do not get their share. That is an indictment on the employers and or agents and they need to get their bloody act together and pay fair and proper wages and charge clients accordingly to make a fair profit on the venture. Humanity anywhere shouldn't be subject to the degrading custom of putting their hands out for tips like dogs being thrown a few scraps.

PHs don't play on the BS that you are up at 4 in the morning and tirelessly working all day for the client for bugger all. There are plenty of people in the world who work longer and harder than you do, many at jobs that they do not get much enjoyment from but it is a job they need to support a family. The situation is not going to get any better for you or your staff while tipping is still allowed and encouraged. Charge a fair wage, pay a fair wage and get on with it. Don't beg.

And yes in my younger days I have guided and taken overseas people out hunting here in NZ, not as a business, but taken time off work and spent my own money, because I love hunting and sharing this with others. This was reciprocated to me (not the same people) when spending a year in Germany where everyone to a person invited me to share their hunting areas, their food, their drink and their friendship with insistence of no reimbursement.

There, the carpet is covered in blood, but I've got it of my chest.

Cheers to all.

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Tipping Etiquette?	crkennedy1	19/08/09 08:42 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Tatume	19/08/09 08:55 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Bramble	19/08/09 09:23 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	9.3x57	19/08/09 11:58 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	DarylS	19/08/09 01:20 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	NitroX	19/08/09 04:22 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	19/08/09 07:42 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	9.3x57	19/08/09 11:36 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	20/08/09 12:13 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	9.3x57	20/08/09 12:40 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	20/08/09 01:11 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	20/08/09 01:17 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Tatume	20/08/09 02:43 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	VonGruff	20/08/09 04:55 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	crkennedy1	20/08/09 05:06 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Mike_Bailey	20/08/09 06:31 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	NitroX	22/08/09 11:06 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	DarylS	23/08/09 03:35 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	eagle27	23/08/09 08:01 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	NitroX	24/08/09 06:52 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	crkennedy1	25/08/09 09:25 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	tophet1	25/08/09 11:45 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	eagle27	25/08/09 08:21 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Paul	25/08/09 08:48 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	NitroX	27/08/09 05:14 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	27/08/09 05:36 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	NitroX	27/08/09 03:04 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	27/08/09 06:04 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Paul	27/08/09 08:44 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	27/08/09 10:21 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	eagle27	28/08/09 05:36 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	kamilaroi	28/08/09 05:41 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	28/08/09 07:33 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	bigmaxx	21/08/09 03:00 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Tatume	21/08/09 03:09 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	bigmaxx	26/08/09 01:16 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	21/08/09 06:14 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	tophet1	21/08/09 09:36 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	DarylS	21/08/09 12:14 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	tophet1	21/08/09 01:11 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	9.3x57	21/08/09 01:18 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	eagle27	21/08/09 05:43 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	kamilaroi	21/08/09 06:21 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	21/08/09 07:34 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	21/08/09 10:27 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	9.3x57	21/08/09 11:20 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	22/08/09 12:05 AM
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Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	22/08/09 02:25 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	jwm	22/08/09 02:55 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	22/08/09 03:04 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	eagle27	22/08/09 07:39 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	22/08/09 08:02 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	tophet1	22/08/09 08:56 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	eagle27	22/08/09 09:32 AM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	shakari	22/08/09 07:16 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	Bramble	21/08/09 01:02 PM
Re: Tipping Etiquette?	9.3x57	21/08/09 12:53 PM
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