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cooch
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Loc: Southern NSW
Re: the big 5
      15/07/09 11:27 AM

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its the human parasite that endangers them,pets,space,these people are so poor they have to eat which drives an industry,civil unrest armies have to be fed.ivory is worth more than gold,intolerance to predators.we cant stop the drug flow here and i assume the rest of the world is the same so how is poaching going to be halted with all those hungry people.we are going to be the next species to be extinct the hunter....




Your post presents a philosophy which i consider misguided - to say the least. It is commonly espoused by those with little understanding of nature, humans, and the place of the latter in the former.

(1)Humans are not a parasite, any more than elephants are. Both are species which have a tendency to over-breed (if not subject to restraint) and have the ability to hugely modify their environment. Both are a PART of the ecosystem.

(2) It is not poverty that creates war, but the other way around. It is conflict that prevents people from planting crops, growing livestock, building reasonable housing and obtaining supplies and services.

(3) Ivory is not "worth more than gold" to the average village hunter-poacher. They get a very small percentage of its value, the rest of which goes to enriching the middlemen and the bribe-taking politicians. (A role frequently filled by the same people.)

(4) We have not stopped the flow of drugs, either in my country, or yours. On the other hand there have been HIGHLY SUCCESFUL programs that DO stop poachers. It's as simple as making it more profitable for the local landowners to conserve game than to kill it. "Profit" in this sense, is what puts food in hungry mouths, digs wells and funds clinics. We have already told you this.... please pay attention.

(5) It is being increasingly appreciated throughout the world that best practice wild-life management includes sustainable utilisation (Recognised by the UN and written into CITES)and that the highest-value form of wildlife utilisation is as a recreational hunting resource, there is a strong economic and environmental imperative to KEEP hunting.

(6) It is also recognised that in areas in which wildlife and feral species are an economic pest, one of the most cost-effective efficient and target-specific ways in which to manage these pests is through recreational hunting.

Bwananelson.
I understand that you may be undergoing a difficult period in your life. I am all too familiar with depression, and the way that it affects our thinking and outlook. However your viewpoint is wildly inaccurate and counter-factual.... not to mention unnecessarily negative.

I suggest that you do some research, rather than listening to those who neither appreciate nor support hunting.

Cheer up......... Peter

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"The only logical response to an animal that lives obsessed with avoiding capture is to chase it." - Jose Ortega y Gassett

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* the big 5 bwananelson 05/07/09 05:08 AM
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. * * Re: the big 5 Tatume   05/07/09 09:28 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 grandveneur   06/07/09 12:02 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 500Nitro   07/07/09 05:00 AM
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. * * Re: the big 5 cooch   07/07/09 05:48 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 Ripp   07/07/09 10:43 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 cooch   07/07/09 01:45 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 Ripp   08/07/09 04:20 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 bwananelson   07/07/09 10:26 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 cooch   15/07/09 11:27 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 9.3x57   15/07/09 11:57 AM
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. * * Re: the big 5 grandveneur   06/07/09 06:46 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 Ripp   07/07/09 12:03 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 bwananelson   07/07/09 12:36 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 grandveneur   05/07/09 11:25 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 500Nitro   05/07/09 11:36 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 grandveneur   05/07/09 11:44 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 500Nitro   05/07/09 11:54 PM
. * * Re: the big 5 grandveneur   06/07/09 12:25 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 grandveneur   06/07/09 12:06 AM
. * * Re: the big 5 EricD   15/07/09 07:45 AM
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