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Hommer and Ripp,

Thanks for the info. I have learned enough about the CF actions to look to see if they have the relief cut for the extractor to pop over the rim in a single feed situation. I think its dumb not to have this capability and don't see why makers like Kimber don't accomodate it.

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The reason is that it weakens the tip of the extractor where it enters the cartridge rim. It is perfectly possible to do, but, it will always compromise this area of the extractor to a greater or lesser extent.
Another reason for not doing so, is so that the rifle only contains the number of cartridges that the magazine will hold, thus allowing you to withdraw the bolt and thumb the cartridge into the mag' and close the bolt on an empty chamber without a loose round floating around.

Regards

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Bramble,
Not sure I am understanding your statement. When I hunt, whether dangerous game or not, I have a round in the chamber, but especially when hunting dangerous game. The clip is full with one up the pipe...assume anyone using a controlled round feed action would do the same..if not, then I guess the previous post really doesn't matter. But if one does, unless you made the modification above correct???

As I mentioned, I have a mauser style action on a few guns, on the .416 I had the modification made. I really feel it is a great advantage, again probably more so when hunting dangerous game...but to be able to toss another round into the chamber if need be and get off a round quickly...personally would not hunt with a gun that does not have that option..again, that is what I have always been used to..

One other item back to the Remington style actions., we were having this conversation once around camp, and I did not believe them until I tried it....but you can work the Remington action upright, sideways, or upside down and the Remington will still feed..which, depending on how the hunt goes, may have some merit as well..

I am in totally agreement the mauser is probably a better action for dangerous game..my only point is that both can work and have for me..while not a ton of game, current have 72 game animals taken in Africa that would agree..along with literally 100's f N American game...with no jams, broken extractors, bolts gone awry, etc... period.

This discussion has gone on for decades, and I am sure as long as there are people that use both, it will continue. For me, I will use both, but will not discount one for the other ..have not seen a reason to for the last 40 years, so no reason for the next either...

Ripp

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