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tinker
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Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load
27/05/09 05:52 AM

Daryl-

Talking about leaving black powder fouling in one's rifle is a definite taboo. In the wrong context or without proper preparation it's a recipe for disaster!
Shooting and hunting with 150 year old rifles would be considered foolhardy by some guys too, and what we're up to here is special gear, special preparation, and special handling.

Further, with consideration of some of the nitro-for-black recipes that are in use for these bore-rifles, there are guys who'd argue that chugging these big charges of black powder is unnecessary and potentially harmful to the rifles!

Any way it goes, my interest is to get one good consistent and accurate load that'll work well in the field in the context of real hunting situations.
As you know the quality of the fouling is half the effort.

On velocities, looking at mid-19th century conversations on 'express' loading, at the "1/4 bullet weight powder charge = ~1600fpsMV" rule, my guess is that I'm pushing or passing the 1600fpsMV mark with the five dram load.

The balls are weighing just about 500 grains.
500/4 = 125
5 drams black powder = 137 grains
The 140 grain charges with the slightly smaller ball shot beautifully, the next load is the ~.690 ball and 140 grains Goex FFg

We shall see.
So far this thing is looking like the "700 Black Powder Express 3 Inch Case"

Cheers
Tinker

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Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	tinker	01/05/09 01:42 PM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	Mike_Johnson	25/10/09 09:21 AM
The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	09/05/09 05:12 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	DarylS	09/05/09 10:20 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	12/05/09 07:56 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	lancaster	12/05/09 07:54 PM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	13/05/09 04:13 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	Kapu	13/05/09 04:18 PM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	14/05/09 10:25 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	26/05/09 01:44 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	DarylS	26/05/09 08:37 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	26/05/09 09:41 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	DarylS	27/05/09 03:35 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	27/05/09 05:52 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	DarylS	27/05/09 09:41 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	27/05/09 09:59 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	DarylS	28/05/09 12:15 AM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	CptCurl	30/05/09 08:10 PM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	DarylS	30/05/09 11:27 PM
Re: The 16-bore rifle, fiddling with the load	tinker	02/06/09 02:08 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	NitroX	01/05/09 03:22 PM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	peter	01/05/09 10:34 PM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	Der_Jaeger	01/05/09 11:01 PM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	Ripp	02/05/09 12:06 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	DarylS	02/05/09 12:14 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	500grains	02/05/09 12:48 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	tinker	02/05/09 01:34 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	Sarg	02/05/09 09:55 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	tinker	02/05/09 02:49 PM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	Paul	03/05/09 12:56 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	NitroX	03/05/09 01:01 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	tinker	03/05/09 01:42 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	tinker	04/05/09 09:38 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	NitroX	03/05/09 03:53 PM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	lancaster	02/05/09 03:29 AM
Re: Got your Swine-Flu medicine right here...	Huvius	02/05/09 03:41 AM
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