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Re: Leopard charge.
      27/03/09 12:34 AM

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OK ,Steve now that the dust has settled on 00 BUCK lets consider what light fast handling firearm would be suitable on charging leopard or lion.
A 500 definately does not fit into that catagory so what alternatives do we have to stop a full blown charge .

Might I sugest a 10 or 12 bore paradox or smooth bore loaded with 750gn projectiles.

A 500 double would have to weigh around 10 1/2 pounds and your average 10 or 12 bore would weigh from 6 1/2 to 8 pounds.

Any thoughts on the subject.




Seems that Shakari already answered you in regards to what considers fast enough handling.

I'll lean back and get comfy in my armchair and toss in my $.02, tho...

IMO it is your purposes here, Alan, that describe the "African niche" for the Marlin 1895 in .45-70. I'll go so far as to state that it would rank as high as just about anything else when loaded with 400 grain bullets of a variety of type from my long-shaft cast hollow points to jacketed soft points and running at 1500 to 1800 fps. My 402 HP goes 1640 fps and is a killer on game and in test media at short range duplicates the .375 H&H Magnum when that caliber is loaded with Premium jacketed bullets.

My Marlin is from the first year of Ballard rifling and has the 22 inch barrel. Even on a huge leopard, the gun would absolutely kill from any angle and break bones the whole way. Weight is around 7.5 lbs and handling is really superb. For shots from the front sight to 100 long paces, I really can't imagine anything better for handling of the rifle when mixed with killing of the leopard.




In addition to the above---a double properly fitted will be able to be handled just as a shotgun ONLY with much better results in stopping a leopard...

Agee with what has been stated by Shakari..and I will paraphrase here..but, anyone wanting to face a leopard or lion, especially a lion, with a shotgun, has either not done it or is not the sharpest tool in the shed...

Ripp

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Edited by Ripp (27/03/09 05:27 AM)

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* Leopard charge. beleg2 20/03/09 08:20 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. iqbal   20/03/09 01:19 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. alexbeer   20/03/09 08:50 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ozhunter   20/03/09 03:30 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. beleg2   20/03/09 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. Ripp   20/03/09 11:44 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   21/03/09 12:33 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ozhunter   21/03/09 02:12 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 500Nitro   22/03/09 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DuggaBoy   21/03/09 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ozhunter   21/03/09 03:24 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   22/03/09 12:13 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. albertan   22/03/09 08:34 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 500Nitro   22/03/09 08:37 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   22/03/09 01:45 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   22/03/09 03:03 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. albertan   22/03/09 06:22 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   22/03/09 06:42 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   23/03/09 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. SharpsNitro   25/03/09 01:11 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ozhunter   24/03/09 06:22 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   24/03/09 07:05 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ozhunter   24/03/09 08:00 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   24/03/09 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   26/03/09 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   26/03/09 10:41 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   26/03/09 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   27/03/09 12:01 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. Ripp   27/03/09 12:34 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DarylS   27/03/09 02:26 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. BeltedMagnum   27/03/09 09:51 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. Ripp   27/03/09 12:14 PM
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. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   27/03/09 12:32 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   26/03/09 10:03 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. xausa   25/03/09 12:47 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   25/03/09 12:20 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   25/03/09 12:25 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   25/03/09 12:39 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 450_366   25/03/09 01:17 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. dale   25/03/09 05:29 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   25/03/09 12:22 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   25/03/09 05:46 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. xausa   25/03/09 06:12 AM
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. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   24/03/09 11:36 PM
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. * * Re: Leopard charge. xausa   23/03/09 01:07 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DarylS   23/03/09 03:52 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   23/03/09 04:32 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   22/03/09 11:59 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. xausa   23/03/09 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   23/03/09 01:37 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. xausa   23/03/09 04:19 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   23/03/09 04:41 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   23/03/09 03:06 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   23/03/09 03:29 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. albertan   23/03/09 06:37 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   23/07/12 10:14 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   23/07/12 10:23 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. Ripp   23/03/09 10:30 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. rscott   23/03/09 11:37 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DarylS   24/03/09 02:28 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DuggaBoy   24/03/09 02:41 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   24/03/09 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. BeltedMagnum   24/03/09 10:21 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. NitroXAdministrator   24/03/09 01:39 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. RLI   24/03/09 01:33 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. lancaster   24/03/09 05:40 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 500Nitro   24/03/09 05:48 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   23/03/09 04:46 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. RLI   25/03/09 08:08 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   25/03/09 09:17 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. RLI   25/03/09 10:39 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   25/03/09 11:02 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   25/03/09 11:28 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. ALAN_MCKENZIE   25/03/09 11:31 PM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   26/03/09 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DarylS   26/03/09 01:39 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   26/03/09 01:47 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   26/03/09 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 450_366   26/03/09 03:15 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   26/03/09 03:34 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 500Nitro   26/03/09 03:24 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   26/03/09 03:37 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 500Nitro   26/03/09 03:41 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. shakari   26/03/09 05:34 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. 9.3x57   23/03/09 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. Ripp   23/03/09 04:15 AM
. * * Re: Leopard charge. DarylS   20/03/09 10:18 AM

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