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farshot
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues
12/02/09 02:25 AM

Not to hijack the thread - but 9.3 makes certain points that I dont disagree on , however, ALL off the shelf rifles may not be what you want in total.... length of pull, trigger creep / break, sights, scope mounts, stock shape or material and so on.

Every off the shelf rifle needs to be worked to YOUR satisfaction. If it doesn't work as a reliable rifle - I agree that is a bad thing.

I marvel at how Remington devotees buy anything in the green box and then basically throw everything away but the action and bolt - and even then they "true it" all up..... why bother?....

So I assume that every rifle that is sold off the shelf is a starting platform for someone to get to where they want it. Reliability is something else however, and the further afield you go with big bores or the newest fashion rounds the more you may expect to be disappointed.

Like it or not the details cost big dollars to have done for off the shelf rifles and companies are selling to the market they perceive to be there.

I do not believe it to be entirely a cost issue though - My Merkel had doubling issues right out of the box -- everyone told it was my operation at fault (it was a mechanical issue) -- so a $8000 rifle is a kit gun as well? No - it is what it is -- a machine that may take some adjustment to get where you wnat it. On that rifle I changed the sights, added LOP, put a hinged front trigger in ....... what I wanted.

Some would say that Merkel is junk - go buy a so and so ---- its only $35000 - but I can bet there would be the same requirements to get that rifle to where YOU want it.

What you appear to suggest are actions with bbls that you build semi-custom rifles on -- I think that is already out there for the enthusiest (sp). Maybe that is the issue here - that people are looking to buy rifles that are "out of their range" of expertise etc -- not to be snob or mean but when someone who spends his time shooting a 7-08 buys a .600 OKH just because -- there is a definite learning curve!

I still prefer to know that any rifle I buy will require my tune ups to get it where I expect it to be. If it doesnt chamber factory ammo - well I would be pissed as much as the next guy.

I still hope Bigbore gets his working well

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CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	05/02/09 06:00 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 08:11 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	08/02/09 10:50 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 12:41 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 02:00 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	16/02/09 10:17 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	12/03/09 05:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/03/09 12:36 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Tatume	12/03/09 06:51 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	09/02/09 04:28 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 07:41 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Tatume	09/02/09 07:56 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	09/02/09 05:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	09/02/09 08:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 08:03 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	09/02/09 08:39 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 10:35 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 10:58 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	DarylS	09/02/09 11:05 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 12:16 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 12:50 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 12:53 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 01:30 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	09/02/09 02:12 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 02:15 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Mike_Bailey	09/02/09 07:55 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	10/02/09 02:46 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	10/02/09 03:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	10/02/09 05:08 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	10/02/09 09:17 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	11/02/09 04:59 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	11/02/09 06:47 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	11/02/09 02:49 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	JohnWilkes	11/02/09 07:26 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	11/02/09 07:45 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	12/02/09 01:33 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	12/02/09 03:35 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Naren	12/02/09 10:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	12/02/09 10:53 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	12/02/09 02:14 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	13/02/09 07:30 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	12/02/09 01:57 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	12/02/09 02:25 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	13/02/09 12:47 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	FrankS	13/02/09 08:55 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	13/02/09 09:08 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	14/02/09 01:17 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	14/02/09 05:55 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/02/09 01:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	DarylS	14/02/09 06:08 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	14/02/09 08:52 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	14/02/09 10:04 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Mike_Bailey	14/02/09 06:26 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/02/09 06:50 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	450_366	14/02/09 02:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	14/02/09 02:58 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/02/09 03:33 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	11/02/09 11:54 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	11/02/09 07:07 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	10/02/09 01:35 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	10/02/09 01:55 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Der_Jaeger	10/02/09 12:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 01:55 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 09:32 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	09/02/09 06:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Naren	09/02/09 08:05 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	08/02/09 12:02 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 12:45 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	06/02/09 01:20 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	500grains	05/02/09 01:51 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	05/02/09 01:54 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	05/02/09 07:21 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	05/02/09 09:31 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	thorshammer	05/02/09 10:11 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Der_Jaeger	05/02/09 11:11 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	05/02/09 11:16 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	05/02/09 01:18 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	thorshammer	05/02/09 01:29 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	05/02/09 02:46 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	thorshammer	05/02/09 02:53 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	05/02/09 03:57 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	05/02/09 06:04 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	06/02/09 08:25 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	peter	05/02/09 08:02 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	06/02/09 01:34 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	06/02/09 12:58 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	06/02/09 04:30 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 05:06 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bwananelson	07/02/09 12:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	07/02/09 12:56 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	07/02/09 02:16 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	07/02/09 03:34 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	07/02/09 09:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	07/02/09 09:18 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	07/02/09 09:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	08/02/09 05:00 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	08/02/09 06:52 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	08/02/09 02:48 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	450_366	08/02/09 06:13 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	08/02/09 08:08 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	08/02/09 01:16 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 08:12 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	08/02/09 08:26 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bwananelson	07/02/09 11:20 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	07/02/09 12:14 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	07/02/09 02:30 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	06/02/09 02:10 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	peter	06/02/09 02:26 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	06/02/09 06:46 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bonanza	06/02/09 07:47 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 07:49 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bonanza	06/02/09 08:12 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	06/02/09 12:43 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 08:28 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	450_366	06/02/09 03:04 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 04:54 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 04:57 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	06/02/09 02:35 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	farshot	14/03/09 03:20 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	ChinaFleetSailor	07/02/09 05:11 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	thorshammer	05/02/09 09:10 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	peter	06/02/09 12:48 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	05/02/09 06:23 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	05/02/09 05:35 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Der_Jaeger	05/02/09 11:40 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Rod4861	05/02/09 10:38 AM

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