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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues
09/02/09 09:32 AM

Oh, Tom! Just when I'm done with this thread...

Interestingly, the CZ site says:

"· Mauser style claw extractor
· Square bridge receiver
· Hammer forged barrel
· Single set trigger

The Mauser style claw extractor for positive loading and extraction..."

The references to Mauser extractor implies CRF, but doesn't actually say it is, I admit.

I must admit I never had any trouble getting a case out of the chamber on my guns so I can affirm their extractor was at least positive in that regard.

But "positive loading"? I think it is correct to say that most reading the advert would assume CZ extractors ACT like Mauser extractors in controlling feed as well as yanking the empty out of the barrel hole. World-reknowned gun writers have called the CZ action a CRF so they must have been bamboozled, too.

So ya know: In some calibers the extractor is modified at the factory to a pushfeed type because the actions are one-size-fits-most jacks-of-all-trades and thus the extractors cannot act properly on the case.

Which calibers? Ahh, that's the Lottery!

Fun, isn't it?

Like Tom I do not care about Dangerous Game but unlike Tom I do not like the fact that my gun was a pushfeed {I fixed it, now it is a CRF}. I think that the "positive loading" "Spiel" is sufficient implication of traditional Mauser design and appears to be an attempt to confuse and distort the truth so the unsuspecting like like me and Tom buy one thinking that it is a CRF action. At least we both thought so in a past post dealing with it and I bet others thought so, too.

Tom's gun is a good one.

Like I said, don't avoid CZ. Just know what you might be getting yourself into.

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CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	05/02/09 06:00 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 08:11 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	08/02/09 10:50 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 12:41 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 02:00 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	16/02/09 10:17 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	12/03/09 05:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/03/09 12:36 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Tatume	12/03/09 06:51 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	09/02/09 04:28 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 07:41 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Tatume	09/02/09 07:56 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	09/02/09 05:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	09/02/09 08:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 08:03 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	09/02/09 08:39 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 10:35 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 10:58 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	DarylS	09/02/09 11:05 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 12:16 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 12:50 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 12:53 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	09/02/09 01:30 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	09/02/09 02:12 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 02:15 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Mike_Bailey	09/02/09 07:55 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	10/02/09 02:46 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	10/02/09 03:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	10/02/09 05:08 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	10/02/09 09:17 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	11/02/09 04:59 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	11/02/09 06:47 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	11/02/09 02:49 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	JohnWilkes	11/02/09 07:26 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	11/02/09 07:45 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	12/02/09 01:33 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	12/02/09 03:35 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Naren	12/02/09 10:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	12/02/09 10:53 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	12/02/09 02:14 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	13/02/09 07:30 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	12/02/09 01:57 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	12/02/09 02:25 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	13/02/09 12:47 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	FrankS	13/02/09 08:55 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	13/02/09 09:08 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	farshot	14/02/09 01:17 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	14/02/09 05:55 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/02/09 01:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	DarylS	14/02/09 06:08 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	14/02/09 08:52 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	14/02/09 10:04 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Mike_Bailey	14/02/09 06:26 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	14/02/09 06:50 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	450_366	14/02/09 02:29 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	11/02/09 11:54 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	10/02/09 01:55 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 01:55 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	09/02/09 09:32 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	09/02/09 06:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Naren	09/02/09 08:05 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	08/02/09 12:02 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 12:45 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	06/02/09 01:20 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	500grains	05/02/09 01:51 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	05/02/09 03:57 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Huvius	06/02/09 08:25 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	peter	05/02/09 08:02 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	06/02/09 12:58 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	06/02/09 04:30 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 05:06 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bwananelson	07/02/09 12:29 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	07/02/09 12:56 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	xausa	07/02/09 02:16 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	07/02/09 03:34 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	07/02/09 09:06 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	07/02/09 09:18 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	07/02/09 09:38 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	08/02/09 05:00 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	08/02/09 06:52 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	ChinaFleetSailor	08/02/09 02:48 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	450_366	08/02/09 06:13 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	08/02/09 08:08 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Bramble	08/02/09 01:16 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	doubleriflenut	08/02/09 08:12 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	08/02/09 08:26 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bwananelson	07/02/09 11:20 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bigboar	07/02/09 12:14 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	tophet1	07/02/09 02:30 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	9.3x57	06/02/09 02:10 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	peter	06/02/09 02:26 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	06/02/09 06:46 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 07:49 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	bonanza	06/02/09 08:12 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Ripp	06/02/09 12:43 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 08:28 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	450_366	06/02/09 03:04 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 04:54 AM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	06/02/09 04:57 AM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues DELETED	ChinaFleetSailor	07/02/09 05:11 PM
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Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	thorshammer	05/02/09 05:35 PM
Re: CZ Safari Classic 550 Quality Issues	Der_Jaeger	05/02/09 11:40 PM
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